All the comment over there are gold; the people were bringing massive A-game meta to the table.
::glances:: ::wibbles:: ::makes a note to go back and give it some serious attention when she doesn't have a company picnic and "mom-time" planned. (Busy weekend is busy.):: ::wonders if it's a 'done' conversation or if she might maybe be able to butt in if it sparks FEELS?::
And YES to everything you've said about equality and especially those OTPs. It's critical. Just so much yes.
I think one of the reasons that this fandom has taken me over so damn hard is because Clint/Natasha is some kind of perfect synthesis of all my previous OTPs combined with the overall Avengers "Marvel-ness" of ethical and moral wrangling that I was raised on and feels like home. (Primarily I got X-Men as a small child and missed out on Avengers, but the same themes are there.)
They have the physicality of Kara/Lee, along with the isolation of Mulder/Scully, and the intellectual chops there-in (because my headcanon is *firmly* on the side of them both having genius-level IQs. Maybe not Tony-level, but spying/assassin stuff requires SO many skill sets and quick learning capabilities I'd think you'd have to be to keep up. I mean, the languages alone, for heaven's sake!) In all cases these are people at the top of their game, used to being without many equals. Except then they find the Other. So these two take the very best of those (and so far, leave out some of the less-favorite bits) and it's just a recipe for WIN.
I'd actually say neither. I think it's rejection he fears.
Also-- concern that he did misjudge her long ago, that she is that monster; not in a threat way, but more in a 'you're more than i can handle' way, more of a 'you could get the better of me' way.
I can see that. Particularly the later. I've always suspected (in the broader headcanon) that his greatest fear or nightmare scenario isn't her getting killed or being taken, but it's that she's going to wake up one day and either a. decide that she's done playing a "good guy" and turn on them, and/or b. she's been playing them all along in some kind of long con.
Re: Epic response to Epic comment of awesomeness. :D
::glances::
::wibbles::
::makes a note to go back and give it some serious attention when she doesn't have a company picnic and "mom-time" planned. (Busy weekend is busy.)::
::wonders if it's a 'done' conversation or if she might maybe be able to butt in if it sparks FEELS?::
And YES to everything you've said about equality and especially those OTPs. It's critical. Just so much yes.
I think one of the reasons that this fandom has taken me over so damn hard is because Clint/Natasha is some kind of perfect synthesis of all my previous OTPs combined with the overall Avengers "Marvel-ness" of ethical and moral wrangling that I was raised on and feels like home. (Primarily I got X-Men as a small child and missed out on Avengers, but the same themes are there.)
They have the physicality of Kara/Lee, along with the isolation of Mulder/Scully, and the intellectual chops there-in (because my headcanon is *firmly* on the side of them both having genius-level IQs. Maybe not Tony-level, but spying/assassin stuff requires SO many skill sets and quick learning capabilities I'd think you'd have to be to keep up. I mean, the languages alone, for heaven's sake!) In all cases these are people at the top of their game, used to being without many equals. Except then they find the Other. So these two take the very best of those (and so far, leave out some of the less-favorite bits) and it's just a recipe for WIN.
I'd actually say neither. I think it's rejection he fears.
Also-- concern that he did misjudge her long ago, that she is that monster; not in a threat way, but more in a 'you're more than i can handle' way, more of a 'you could get the better of me' way.
I can see that. Particularly the later. I've always suspected (in the broader headcanon) that his greatest fear or nightmare scenario isn't her getting killed or being taken, but it's that she's going to wake up one day and either a. decide that she's done playing a "good guy" and turn on them, and/or b. she's been playing them all along in some kind of long con.