ext_44126 ([identity profile] jacedesbff.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] be_compromised2014-01-09 10:35 pm

ATTF: Little People!

NOTE: I am going to talk extensively about the fics “Make the World Brand New” by whiskeyinmind and “Only Human” by anuna_81 which shall include huge, whopping spoilers. You’ve been warned! :-)

I was inspired to put forth this topic by two stories that took very different yet equally unique takes on the whole “little people” trope. The first is Make the World Brand New, by whiskeyinmind, written for anuna_81 for Secret Santa 2013. In it, the first time Natasha sees Clint, 11 years before he actually brings her in, it’s because she set up a trap for SHIELD with the sole purpose of handing her newborn baby girl over to them. She wanted the beautiful baby she knew she was about to have to be brought up in a good place instead of in the Red Room so she took steps to ensure the desired result. I love that the entire concept of this fic is that Natasha, young as she was when forced to have a baby by the sick puppies at the Red Room despite all of the conditioning they tried to twist into her, knew that her baby deserved better. She knew that and she acted on it, no matter how terrifying it was. She knew how to be a mom.

Second – Only Human by anuna_81. I’m going to point out upfront that one of the underlying concepts of this particular story is actually kind of douchebaggish on Natasha’s part, although Clint does admit later that he could have put a stop to it if he had wanted to. A long time ago, the Red Room made Natasha miscarry a pregnancy and she never really got over it. After she and Clint become a couple, she comes to want a child with him but can’t really put it in words to herself, and she at-first-unconsciously-but-then-not manipulates them into no longer using birth control (which is the fairly douchebaggish part.) When she admits to it (because she doesn’t get pregnant and has a mini-meltdown), he tells her he pretty much knew what was going on, and she apologizes. Then they decide together to work to have a baby. It’s a beautiful story about her reclaiming her body in defiance of those who would try to dictate to her what she could and could not do with it.

I love the idea of one or both of our favorite assassins coming to decide they want a child. Now I also like a good “unexpected kid!”fic, because you know, I like me some babies in general, but what about when it’s a purposeful thing? All kidding aside, I don’t think the Red Room, unless they were the ones behind it, would ever allow one of their assets to go on maternity leave. That’s just who and what they were. But to quote Jurassic Park, nature finds a way. (See Miracle by Frea_O to read a particularly awesome take on that take on how our OTP ends up with child through a bizarre series of biological mishaps – it’s pretty freakin’ awesome.) What makes two people with their kind of background decide that children are a good idea? Would they? Children being a purposeful thing isn’t a common trope, so I’m going with the thought that most of us don’t think most of the time that they would do that. What would change that and/or inspire it? What about when the pregnancy is unexpected? What brings them around to thinking it’s an okay idea (or do they come to that?)

So what do you think? What prompted this was the concept of trying to have kids, but again, the associated question is what do they do when children come when they’re not trying (‘cause we all know it happens!)? I’m sharing some of my favorite examples below. Please share yours, and feel free to throw in some comment fic!

[Edit: the awesome fic "Only Human" is by anuna_81 and *posted* to head_on_home. :-) ]

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Make the World Brand New, by whiskeyinmind. See above!

Only Human by head_on_home. Also see above!

Assassin Baby series by shanachie – in my own personal headcanon, this series is the sequel to Only Human (but really – it’s just in my head.) At one point we learn that Ariana was planned for and not an accident; it always seemed a natural progression to me (and it's a great series.) :D

5 Times Clint Woke Up in the Middle of the Night + 1 Time Natasha Did by SidheRa – to me, this is the epitome of the unexpected pregnancy fic. It’s the one against which I still measure all of the rest. Just is. :D

Someday, Maybe by Starrika – Natasha’s thoughts throughout the film given that she just found out she’s pregnant.

Miracle by Frea_O – I mentioned it above but wanted to list it again b/c I really do love it! The attackers mentioned throughout the fic, by the way, are referred to as Big-Ass Ugly Bugs. Worth it for that moniker alone. :D
“Baby on a Mission fic” – written for the Secret Santa 2013. Fresh take on “them with a baby” in which it’s not that they have a baby, but rather that a baby is needed for a mission. Heh!

Assumptions by jacedesbff (is it tacky to include my own fic??) – they don’t have a child, but by the end of it, Clint (and it’s implied Natasha) changes his mind about whether or not he would be willing to, and I like that journey. I just read another one that ends with that same concept, and I can’t for the life of me remember where I read it. *facepalm* Anyone??

After the War by ashen_key – World War II ficlet. Gotta be careful about those wartime hook-ups! Seriously, though, I love this little snapshot that hints at a huge movie’s worth of coolness behind it. (I keep telling ashen_key she needs to explore it more!)

I know there are many wonderful examples I am leaving out. I hope you lovely bar denizens will take up the slack. :D

[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Too tired to say anything coherent or thoughtful right now, but isn't "Only Human" one of [livejournal.com profile] anuna_81's? "Head on home" is the community where it was posted. I may be wrong ...

Interesting topic -- I admit to being scared by kid!fic although I do read them (if they don't turn our assassins into OOC woobies, that is). I've read all but the last one you recc'd, and they are certainly top of the line! :-)

[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
My god, I'm pretty sure I have cavities after reading some of those recs.

I've said this before, but I really enjoy stories where Clint and Natasha adopt or foster kids, because they are each other's found family, and to me it makes sense to expand that with a kid who needs them.

[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yuuuup, Only human is my baby (ehehehehe!). One of my favorite things that I've written :D i'm really happy when i see people remember it, especially because i was pretty much bashed for that fic.

[identity profile] frea-o.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
I think I called them "Big-Ass Ugly Bugs" because I was writing on Christmas Eve and didn't actually want to put any work into the story, but I'm laughing that this is apparently a draw to read that sucker. Thanks for the rec, and for the other recs! I will give a detailed and thoughtful reply when I have slept and because it is nearly 3 a.m., consumed massive amounts of oversugared coffee.

[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
"Pretty much bashed"?? All the comments under that post were gushing praise, as far as I can see ... it is lovely, I must say.

[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Not on that post, sweetie, it was elsewhere, where i and many other people could read why babyfics featuring Natasha shouldn't be written.
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[personal profile] franztastisch 2014-01-10 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
Adoption yes. I love the idea of them adoping kids. But even more, I love the idea of them adopting older kids - like 13+ or something. Partly because I like the idea of everyone having a choice in the matter and partly because I myself am not so big on little kids.
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[personal profile] franztastisch 2014-01-10 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a fan of kid fics personally, but I'll read them occasionally. Mainly I feel that neither would want kids enough to make in a reality - based on their work, their own childhoods and their personalities etc.

However, as I said above, I love the idea of them adopting older kids for some reason. See Not A Day Goes By (Not A Single Day) by [livejournal.com profile] _samalander for many of the reasons I like this idea, even though it's AU.

[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and because older kids find it harder to get homes.

ETA And I forgot to self-rec a fic of them adopting a (youngish) kid. Parenthood is Hard: http://archiveofourown.org/works/658645
Edited 2014-01-10 12:01 (UTC)

[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
There was a lot of passive-aggressiveness directed at Anuna. It was pretty awful.

[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yikes. That's awful. I'm not a huge proponent of them myself, but (a) I am perfectly happy to let those who love them, love them and (b) in the hands of the right author they can be quite wonderful. And Nuna is the right author.

[identity profile] spyforaday.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, kids scare me. Really scare me. Even my two gorgeous, sweet, (way too) smart, energized nieces. I give my sister and brother-in-law -- and anyone out there who came to the conclusion that they want kids -- all my respect and admiration. I knew from a young age that that rite of passage was not for me. So that's probably why that genre doesn't appeal to me. BUT, if a story is well-written, generates lots of buzz and gets rec'd on this site -- you better believe I'm giving it at least a peek at the first few 'graphs just to see if it catches my interest.

As for our fav assassins, my puny little mind can't conceive of a situation where, no matter how much they love each other, they would have a baby. Logistics, terrible pasts, unknown futures. It just seems like too much to overlook. However, I love the idea of them secretly being involved in kids-related organizations to help out kids in bad situations. Foster programs, funneling money, getting kids out of abusive homes, kicking the butts of deadbeat dads. THAT makes me happy.

[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for putting that self-rec in there, I loved that fic and still want a sequel :)

[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatttt???? I LOOOOOVE that fic!!! I LOOOOOVE Natasha in that one too...she wasn't being malicious. She was just...human. And Clint knows that. I love fics like this b/c I don't think its out of the realm of possiblity with her background and abuse that she would always be thinking as rationally as someone who was raised in a middle-class secure home. Her reference points for so many things are going to be different. That's what makes her so admirable to me, to see her functioning so well (relative term), figuring things out...this woman is all about growth and discovery and that's not going to happen without a few hitches here and there.

[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like kidfics...I have two little ones of my own and when its tough its the toughtest thing out there --ok, being in the Redroom or coming from an abusive household or being a SHIELD agent or an Avenger is probalby tougher--But like it really does a number on you. At least it did a number on me. So I like the idea of this thing turning their lives around...suddenly priorities are going to be way different. I can see how that doesn't appeal to some people, but I think its interesting to read how they would make it work.

Also, they would have some gorgeous children. That is reason enough for it. ;)

I also like the few fics I have read with Clint having older kids...a couple he had an adult aged daughter, which for some reason I could just see as a possiblity.

The kid fics I'm not fond of are the ones that the characters don't seem like Clint or Natasha...like they can be any Joe and Mary with their kids living happily ever after.

[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks shenshen! Part of the problem is that I know what happens, and really dark things happen in the sequel, and I'm wimping out of writing it.

[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I knooooow!!! *whimpers* And yeah, I would totally wimp out of writing it too, if that was the case...

[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com 2014-01-10 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh! Exciting. Write it, you know you want to. :P

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