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Promptathon is heeeeeeeeeeeeeere!
The Good Ship C/N Promptathon
of Magic and Joy: Aka, The Promptathon of All Wonderful Things Involving Two Certain Badass Assassin People Doing Badass Things and Being Awesome. And Badass. And Pretty. And Stuff.
NOTE: The promptathon has now closed, but please enjoy all the lovely fic and fanworks. in our Masterposts below.
Master List of all Promptathon fanworks.
Master List, Part 2 now with more delicious everything!
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NOTE: PROMPTING HAS NOW CLOSED, BUT FICS AND FANWORKS MAY STILL BE SUBMITTED THROUGH AUGUST 31ST. THANKS!
Welcome!!!! The time is now upon us. This will kick off a month's worth of prompting and fanworking and all the good things. Not sure what to do? Click below for our handy-dandy Promptathon Guide!
RULES ON POSTING SUBMISSIONS
(please read before you post! <3)
The Rules. Just follow these three easy steps!
1. Leave a Prompt.
Prompts can be anything--simple or elaborate, words or pictures, songs or poems, lyrics or phrases. Anything that, to you, inspires a C/N fanwork. Use your imagination. Go crazy. All I ask is that you keep it tasteful and warn for anything explicit or triggery. Also, try to be as specific as you can with your prompts--this is often very helpful to those creating the fanwork.
And leave as many prompts as you want. I’m serious. Keep coming back, y’all. We want all the prompts we can possibly get Also, be sure to leave each prompt as a separate comment.
2. Wait a week.
Tailgate and chitchat and keep leaving prompts. And mull over the epic fanworks you are creating.
3. Submit C/N fanwork like there is no tomorrow.
All submissions should either be posted here or linked to this post via a comment. The nitty gritty details of posting your stuff can be found HERE. Please read before you post
Timeframe:
Prompts will be accepted starting today, Friday, July 13th (!!!) and will remain open until Friday, August 10th. Submissions may be submitted beginning on Friday, July 20th and may continue to be submitted until August 10th.
What we hope to accomplish with all this promptathon-iness:
- A chance to get in the game. Been wanting to jump into the C/N fanwork scene but not sure where to start? Now’s the time. There’s no length requirement on the works submitted, you can focus on drabbles and vidlets and short and sweet projects (or do longer more epic stuff if that strikes your fancy as well). It’s really entirely up to you. We’re just hoping to provide a fun, no-pressure environment.
- Meet new and awesome people. Because srsly, I love everyone in this bar. It's a good damn bar. Don't be afraid to say hello
- Ship like you’ve never shipped before.
- Tailgate when appropriate. My motto is, if something ain’t a cocktail party, you just aren’t trying hard enough. In that spirit, aurora_0811and I are hosting the tailgate section (which I think at this point just includes random chatter and ridiculousness, cheerleading and tomfoolery, because I doubt our comm’s talkative nature will be suppressed even during the prompting/waiting period.) So pull up a helicarrier-shaped lawnchair, crack open a cold one and settle in for the festivities. And leave prompts.
And most of all, have fun. :)
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
The 'to me' was her compeleting the sentence-- finishing his thought--and i love everything that says about her headspace right there. He volunteers nothing but she fills in the blanks. And while I don't think she's wrong, the fact that she'll go there, even inside her mind, speaks volumes.
And the silence. Oh the silence. I can have my Disney assassins banter all damn day (and I love it, truly), but here, the silence is what makes it. This particular relationship is all about the negative space. (and strangely i'm loathe to say too much about this verse, to give away too many secrets, b/c it starts to lose the mysticism. once you try to explain worship, or devotion, or faith (or the lack thereof) you always run the risk of lessening the beauty. it's why apohasis is such a powerful and profound concept.)
THIS WOMAN. agency feels ftw!
Indeed. And in this story, her consent is very much thinly veiled imagery of her engagement in the reclamation process as a whole. **tackleglomps her**
**with permission**
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Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
(not least b/c i am a massive theology dork.)
this was acutally the name of an earlier c/n story of mine where i really let the meta run wild, and it was a lot of fun. did you ever read it? you might like it. it's slighty more disney!assassins but only very slight. in fact, it wouldn't take much squinting to see that story with a cronenburg bent now that i think about it.
i think with dark, complicated female characters who don't emote there's this tendency to want to "fix" them-- to make them get in touch with the feeeeeeelings and get psycholanalyzed and therapy through their shit until they're OKAY (whatever the hell that means.) and frankly, it bothers me. i've also seen it manifest itself as a temptation to break down the character emotionally until they put themselves back together in a way that's more socially acceptable (read 'normal with normal emotions') and that's equally problematic. also problematic is the need to write such a character as a mass of psychological trauma just waiting to break through at the first sign of trouble. in my mind, someone this smart and this tough and who has seen this much shit has her coping mechanisms pretty well in place; i don't really second-guess the character's ability to deal with shit--I just assume they can. and of course trauma is going to come out, and of course emotional journeys are going to happen (otherwise why do we even bother?), but GAWD it needs to be handled delicately.
idk, this probably ceased to make sense long ago. :)
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
lol! right? what is that? women don't need to be fixed thankyouverymuch society. being damaged is all part and parcel of the whole human being gig. methinks media has intercepted that message, perverted it and spewed it out the other end. the sad part is that the masses eat that shit up like manna from heaven. yikes. my everyday conversation with people often consists of overturning this deeply entrenched thinking. whenever i ask them point blank if the representation of women in media is accurate and true to life in comparison to that of a man half the time they have no idea what to say. and i'm like, BECAUSE IT'S NOT. LET ME SHOW YOU ALL THE WAYS. the other thing that completely incenses me is the internalised misogyny that most women accept because of said failures. it's maddening and heartbreaking. sorry, idek where i was going with this. just, yes. yes to everything that is problematic and needs to be fixed.
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
really, there aren't enough facepalms in the world for that shit. We need to stop being so damn sacred of complexity full stop. another irksome irk i find with strong female fandoms is the desire to reduce her male partner to less-than so she can always come out looking better/stronger/smarter/faster/"all the things more than you because women are awesome and don't forget it." it can tip the equlity balance in a way i find very unpalatable. strength and power aren't zero-sum games. one person having it does not necessarily require a reduction in the other.
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We need to stop being so damn sacred of complexity full stop.
yes yes and YES. reasons that zoe saldana quote (http://everythingismusical.tumblr.com/post/28823721072) floating around is so amazing but will sadly be over used by week's end.
the desire to reduce her male partner to less-than
ugh, misandry is NOT the answer to equality. this misses the point completely. yes, we've proven time and again a woman can accomplish things men can but that's not the ultimate goal. recognition and acknowledgement of rights and BEING is what we are fighting for. how that gets so skewed is beyond me. reasons partnership is one of my most favourite things in the world.
side note: have you seen political animals? it kind of hits on all these points.
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(incidentally, that is actually my primary irk with AO3. it's brilliant from a consumption perspective, but it's like tumblr for words. click a button if you like and no incentive to engage. ah, but that's a discussion for another day.)
i had seen that quote floating around but didn't realize it was hers. a thousand yeses. i think we'll start to get a lot more traction as a species when we throw men out as a yardstick for anything (same with women too). either/or gets so tiresome; i'd like the world I live in to be both/and (and full of wild purple technicolor too).
(i have not but now i'm intrigued...)
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(yeah, tumblr is very much so fast food blogging and ao3 is like some sushi pick-up place. a wee bit more substance but there's not place to sit down and eat! i guess this is why i'll never give lj up cos where else am i going to get epic meta discussions and squee that has meaning?)
that show on lifetime the conversation is kind of brilliant. (where the zoe quote is from) it's just women talking about life and sometimes they talk about men and sex and kids but mostly they talk about value as a person and what it means in the context of female with a heavy side order of geeking out over things. it's actually pretty cool.
i say down with the measuring system too. what matters in the end is if you've done the right thing. granted the morality scale may not be any better or worse than the existing scale but there's an inherent voice in humans that raise flags or yield caution that should be listened to more. ...omg what are we even talking about anymore?
SUPER SEXY SPIES RULE! there, brought it back on topic.
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SUPER SEXY SPIES!!!!
(... and i am happy to report that thoughts are happening for 3rd-party scenes and such.)
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(omg, yay! i was also thinking that coulson, at the very least, knew about the sexing since 'bait' but chose not to say anything when he erased the footage and audio. i mean what clandestine intelligence agency doesn't bug every nook and crany of their facility? a lazy one. SHIELD is anything but.)
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
I went round and round all day about jumping in here or just having longer rambly think-y thoughts on my journal (answer: both), but this is touching on some things I'm really struggling with in some of the stories I'm writing (which I will grant you are closer to Disney than Cronenburg, but aren't entirely either) - where is the line between "fixing" and a character "healing" as a part of their growth and development? Because I'm a whole-hearted believer in characters coming to places and situations that help to heal them (Tony becoming and embracing Iron Man, for instance) as well as the situations that crop up that can break parts of a character down (Clint being possessed by Loki falls into this category, I'd imagine.)
And I'd think that the position that Natasha ends up in with SHIELD and her partnership with Clint, and eventually with the rest of the Avengers, that has to be a stronger place, a stronger foundation than what she had with the Red Room and would be a situation from which healing arises, which would change her. But I'm not sure I see what the differences are? I don't want to give her flat, pat answers or solutions, but I also want her to have a chance to grow and develop, if that makes any sense?
Or, you know, I could just be having one of those attacks of "oh god, what the hell am I actually doing" sorts of doubt-y moments that sneak up on you when you're not expecting them.
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What gets me uneasy is when very spefically drawn characters (read: dark, complex women) are given conflict to help achieve a more normative response-- and the two best and most egregious examples i can think of are forced sexual trauma (rape, triggers, "oh, my awful past!", etc.) or "oops i got pregnant!" in order to force this woman to deal with her demons and normalize and confront emotions and get in touch with her inner earth goddess nurturer or whatever so by the end of the story OMG! Look at how fully actualized she is! All it took was some normative shit to be able to confront her inner womanness! Look how much better behaved she is now! Look how well she plays with others! She can give hugs! She can kiss her man with confidence! She can hold that baby with pride!
Okay, now i've gone off on a snarky tangent, allow me to stop being a jackass for a minute and actually unpack this. None of this-- NONE OF IT--is bad in and of itself. Not at all. A story can take me any place it damn well pleases---if it's told well. And for me, well = with nuance and subtlety. I need the conflict to feel organic and not contrived and the same thing goes with the emotional response of the protagonist. I want it to feel earned. What i dont' want is fixing for the sake of fixing or worse... some kind of normative fixing that doesn't feel appropriate to this character we're talking about.
For natasha, she no doubt has issues. She no doubt has demons she needs to fight. No doubt at all. So it's not a matter of if they come up but how they are handled. I guess what i'm trying to say is that she needs to be able to heal herself on her terms. It may not look normal or even healthy but it really doesn't matter if it works for her. And it doesn't mean that she has to be less complex or even less dark.
Okay now i'm just a rambling jackass. Is any of this making sense?
---also, this who exchange was me just shooting off my mouth in the most general way possible. It certainly wasn't meant to cause doubt for anyone, least of all you my dear. :)
(now i just need that "let me love you" gif...)
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
For natasha, she no doubt has issues. She no doubt has demons she needs to fight. No doubt at all. So it's not a matter of if they come up but how they are handled. I guess what i'm trying to say is that she needs to be able to heal herself on her terms. It may not look normal or even healthy but it really doesn't matter if it works for her. And it doesn't mean that she has to be less complex or even less dark.
Okay now i'm just a rambling jackass. Is any of this making sense?
You're not a jackass, hon. :) And I see (or at least I'm pretty sure I see) where you're going with that. For me, whether or not a story is in character (or at the very least, whether or not the OOCness has a believable path to get there - show me *why* they're different now!) is of paramount importance.
In a way, it's some of the same kind of thing that happened with Kara Thrace - the baby thing in particular, because I'll admit right now to being a complete sucker for well done (read: in character) babyfic in numerous fandoms... but it's that "in character" part and dealing with how they are or are not dealing with it, in a manner that's true for them, and that's what appeals to me about it (which may or may not make any kind of sense, idek.) It was figuring out how she would react to this - and it often did the opposite of fixing her, god knows... I'm not sure where I was going with that. But yeah. And I might have a seriously angsty C/N fic almost done that deals with pregnancy but most certainly *doesn't* involve "fixing"... quite possibly the opposite, yikes
---also, this who exchange was me just shooting off my mouth in the most general way possible. It certainly wasn't meant to cause doubt for anyone, least of all you my dear. :)
I think most of my concern (which I was already having because I've gotten to "that point" in things where you look at what you've written so far and just go "what is this even?") is wanting to do her justice, and not make things pat or easy for her, and she's so hard to pin down sometimes (in part because I'm playing pretty close to movie canon and there's just not so much of it.) So I was at the point of going to the flist and being all "please tell me this isn't crap!" in any case. This just brought up a particular point I needed some clarity on. :D
(now i just need that "let me love you" gif...)
Ask and ye shall receive. :D
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')
I think at the end of the day, you just have to write the characters in a way that feels authentic to you. And what that looks like and sounds like is going to be different from everyone, which is why there never is (nor should there be) one definite fanon take on how to write anything. And likewise, readers will tend to gravitate to portrayals that ring true to them. We all bring something different to the table, and we're all looking for different things, the things that resonate the most to us as readers and as writers.
A very good friend of mine in k/l fandom (who is also my bestest and most trusted beta in the world) and I always said that we were satisfied with a story when we got to the point where we could justify every decision we made. We knew it was done (and good) if we could defend every single word and its reason for being there. Now, we take our words pretty seriously (b/c we are ridiculous that way, and we're also both argumentative as hell--it's part of our charm), but I feel like that's the general idea. As long as you know why you did it and how you got there, I think that's all you need.
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')