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ATTF: Let's Show Joss Where To Go -- Scripts, Clips and Cameos

Hey there, dearest members of the Bar of Bars! I took the day off to do some writing (!), and now that I finished cleaning up the mess the enormous, fat raccoon that lives down the lane made of our garbage last night (yes, the can WAS secured ...) I thought I’d post today’s issue a bit early. Here’s hoping this will give our friends on other continents than the one I'm on a sporting chance to play while it’s still Friday there, too!

Right. Topic.

We just had another great Promptathon – but I just know that your creativity hasn’t been exhausted yet. Far from it! So I thought we could tap into it once more. Like this:

We’ve all been squeeing over glimpses of That Necklace in the stills from Cap2, the trailers for Thor2, and wondering what the MCU future holds for Hawkeye and Black Widow. If you’re anything like me, you’re hoping for a cameo, a post-credit clip, or a little snippet of script that might put some wind into the sails of our 'ship. Or you’re just a wee bit ~~ticked off~~ concerned that there is still no sign of the Hawkeye/Black Widow movie they should be making, ~~instead of~~ in addition to the ones that are in the pipeline.

So here’s your challenge:

Give us your pitch, write up your script outline, your single-scene story board, your trailer – for the cameo, the one-minute clip, the extra-feature short, or the whole Big Damn Movie you’d like to see, starring our favourite assassins and their assorted BAMFy friends.

If you’re muse is on vaca today, there are some fantastically talented artists and vidders out there who’ve already done movie posters, clips and trailers – so rec away!

Just to get you going -- a while ago,

sunny_serenity posted this lovely piece of inspiration:

Things to remember:
1) Always label NSFW (Not Safe For Work) stuff in the title and post under a cut.
2) Fic and artwork needs to have a rating and warnings (or you can say that you’ve chosen not to use warnings).
3) For people with annoying internet connections, say in the title if a comment is graphic/images/gif-heavy and post picspams under a cut.
4) Have a damn good time! (Because if that’s not happening then this post has clearly failed.)

And … remember to have fun!!!

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Just to start things off, here’s a little snippet I stuck into a comment to the post-Promptathon celebration (slightly edited version) – a.k.a., The Cameo I’d Like To See After Cap2:

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Black Widow lets herself into her apartment, still looking slightly disheveled after the final battle. An arrow whizzes by her head, embedding itself in the doorframe. She doesn't blink, but turns around, a smile in her eyes.

"So you're back. Have a good time with your mission?"

Camera focuses on a slightly bandaged Hawkeye, still in his tac gear, unfurling himself from the couch.

"The bots were a bit of a pain, getting smarter as you shot them. I think Stark may be building something to take them out once and for all.”

He walks up to her, invades her personal space.

“Heard you were busy, too."

Natasha shrugs.

"Yeah, but we managed. Hey, I got to slug Sitwell. In time, he may come to forgive me."

"Maybe not quite yet. He told me about you kissing Cap. Anything I should know about?"

She puts her arms around his neck, cards her fingers through his hair.

"Pure self-preservation. Although you were gone for a long time."

He looks down at her neckline, reaches for it with a calloused finger.

"Nice necklace."

They look deeply into each other's eyes, as the window behind them lights up in an ominous orange.

Screen fades to black, followed by the announcement:
"Avengers 2: The Age of Ultron. Coming May 2015 to a theatre near you!"

Haha I still love this end-scene. Since I am terrible at writing anything remotely clever, I won't even attempt.

But I have been thinking lately that in addition to an end-scene...what if there is a great flashback scene where Natasha is talking about her past to Steve, and there is a lovely little montage, and of course "SHIELD sent their best to take me down." And clip of you-know-who.

Also I was thinking with the kiss scene...what if Natasha had a series of kisses throughout the movie? With Steve, with Bucky, with Sitwell (Lol, you know, for some sorta reason)...and then at the end of the movie, Steve is saying something profound and montage-y, and there is a clip of Natasha with a genuine smile on her face and a true, loving kiss with Clint.

"... a lovely little montage, and of course "SHIELD sent their best to take me down." And clip of you-know-who..."

That would do nicely! :-)

Ooo, I really like that Budpest poster :D

Alas, my brain is a bit fried for writings or speculation tonight, so have some recs:

FILM POSTERS

Budapest film poster - does anyone know who by or have a link to the original?

Budapest film poster by amyisalittledecoy

another Budapest film poster by missread12 on tumblr (can only find a pinterest link)

Budapest: The Movie by littlemissromanoff

one and two arty Budapest film posters by kanahyde

an animated Budapest film poster by zdorik-sandorik

Budapest film poster by sassymrknightley

Budapest poster from TaylorKestrel

arty Black Widow film poster by alicexz

Black Widow and Hawkeye film posters by Olly Moss and Tom Whalen

another black widow poster by Olly Moss

TRAILERS

Hawkeye and Black Widow: Strike Team Delta trailer by puffabilly

Hawkeye: Vantage Point trailer by TatyanaOracle

Black Widow trailer by katalizi

Hawkeye: The Russian Spy by oasisthebest03

a black widow fan trailer by youffie valentine

...and have shawarma

A thing I have realised: when the Master Assassin film happens fandom believes it will be called Budapest. A thing I suspect: it really, really won't be, if only because Joss Whedon will find this out and, being him, do something entirely different *grins*. What would you call a Master Assassin film?

Edited 2013-08-16 21:05 (UTC)

Man, these posters are great (even if one has a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge rather than Budapest, it's the thought thatwent into them that counts!!!) :-) My own memories of Budapest involve a lot of walking, and some seriously calorific food. You don't need assassins to kill someone...

Look forward to seeing those vids -- three of them I haven't seen yet. Where do you keep/catalogue all this stuff??? I am totally in awe.

I've never really been interested in Budapest - except for when I read The Historian, amazingly atmospheric book - so I'm amused by the automatic connection fandom has made in my head between a whole heap of fandom and movie and comics stuff I'm familiar with and a city that I'm really not. If we could do such things, how amazing would a be_compromised trip to Budapest be? Fan tour of the city, film night, writers retreat days, party at the end...

My bookmarks are insane. No, really. I'm trying to organise them, but it's slow going. I used to have masses for older fandoms too, but when I got a new laptop about two-ish years ago my links didn't switch over, so I lost A LOT. Avengers I only started on after the new laptop though, so those are safe :) I need to collate my few links on AO3, my bookmarks, and organise them somehow rather than just having lists, meh. I kept meaning to do a big rec list, but too intimidating :S

I do remember finding this poster for a 6 part mini series called the Hawk which I thought was a pretty cool way of not calling it whatever people exptect it to be called. I don't think any film will get called Budapest, but I'm not sure what else it'll get called. It would depend on the storyline.

(If I were to get to name it, I'd probably give it some wanky arty sounding title. My head immediately came up with Ribbons and Leaves for no apparent reason. Though Different Call seems like a plausible alternative too)

Ooo, I like that. And the poster too :)

Yeah, I guess it depends on the mood - noir, Russian spy film, action-adventure, superhero film... I love that with these two superhero film isn't the first thing that springs to mind or really the theme film of choice. Different Call, can see that one, yes! Ribbons and Leaves...makes me thing of ballet slippers and leaves falling from trees where Clint is pracisting.

Ribbons and Leaves is a song by Graham Coxon and I still don't know why it popped into my head just then. But you've somehow managed to make it sound like a halfway sensible suggestion, so thanks! :P

I was talking to my friend about this and we basically worked out why we don't think Marvel will ever give us a Hawkeye/Black Widow film. Basically, becuase they are spies and not superheroes. They don't have, in the backstory given and hinted at, the type of "tipping moment" that any of the other Avengers have. Tony was kidnapped and built himself a suit to escape, Bruce experimented on himself and became a monster, Steve was experimented on and became a hero. Thor sort of gets a pass by virtue of being an alien/god.

As far as we can tell from what we've been given, Clint and Natasha have none of this. No mention has been made of the Red Room (though this might change with Cap 2), and we know that Clint doesn't have anything like this in his backstory. So, the type of film they would get would be a spy story, rather than a superhero story in the traditional sense. *shrugs* Well, that's what me and my friend concluded. It's one of the reason that I'm holding out for a Captain Marvel film over a Black Widow film (and also I saw a really cool idea for a Captain Marvel film which involved her and Spider-Woman, which I really want to see. Though Captain Marvel has to be Katee Sackhoff. I accept not substitutes.)

HAVING SAID THAT; my Black Widow and Hawkeye films would go as follows.

It would be a trilogy, obviously. :P

FIRST FILM: Hawkeye.

You'd get his entire backstory, abusive father, becoming orphaned, running away to the circus (cos this is the best part, let’s not lie), Barney. Either you'd have this as a war story or a more traditional origins story, because you'd either end it with him being recruited into SHIELD after the events of the circus/the Swordsman/Trick Shot OR you'd have the circus bit being quite short and the majority of the story being set in the army, being recruited and then, at the very end, being handed the file about the termination of the Black Widow. Despite the fact that this would condense the circus storyline (which I love) quite a bit, I am very attached to the ending being Clint receiving Natasha's file.

SECOND FILM: Black Widow.

A more traditional origin story, focussed mainly on her work in the Red Room – missions and stuff, but then also then her slowly trying to get out of it. Lots of women so Yelena Belova can be the main antagonist? Something like that anyway. Apart from, near the end, she starts to get followed by someone. Obviously that’s Clint, but you don’t see him until the very very end. A sort of, she runs round the corner and finds an arrow to her heart BOOM END kind of thing. Seriously, he’s in it almost not at all. It’s Natasha’s story.

THIRD FILM: Budapest. Obviously.

With the pre-title sequence being one of those montages showing Natasha being brought in and her slow acclimatisation to SHIELD. It doesn’t even have to have a romantic subplot. In fact, I’d totally prefer it if it didn’t. It’ll be like the Avengers, though maybe with a little more UST. Or just buddycop banter. Though I don’t know what actually happens in Budapest. That’s for someone else to decide.

As for an end sequence for Cap 2, I want Natasha to be doing her post-op paperwork, and getting really pissed and bored and then an arrow lands on her desk. And she smiles, and turns and says “so psych finally let you out then?” and Clint grins and says “looks like. Coffee?” Screen goes black: THE AVENGERS WILL RETURN IN AGE OF ULTRON. MAY 2015.

I HAVE THOUGHTS OKAY? :P

Trilogy. huh. Ambitious much? ;-) Squish it together, and you have a 2.5 hr movie, methinks ... One I would pay good money to see. Three or four times. And then buy on BluRay and load onto my Mac so I can watch it on airplanes, so my family can't laugh at me about just how often I watch it ...

And your end scene? YES. Please. :-)

What can I say? I like trilogies (when they're properly planned) and I think they're interesting enough characters to pull one off. Also I want substantial circus bits. Because circus. :D Though, yeah, you could probably make one film of this. That I too would see 3 or 4 times in the cinema. I JUST WANT MORE CLINT AND NATASHA.

I love the circus backstory!!! I want to see a young Clint doing his "turn in mid-air" on a trapeze act.

I know! It would be amazing. And you could make it trippy amd amazing. :D I JUST WANT THIS MARVEL. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I know, it would be fricken amazeballs!!! They would have to get a couple of young actors (obviously) but I want to see him lose his virginity with the lion tamer's assistnant or something haha. And just riding elephants and juggling and applying clown make-up and getting constipated on a bunch of circus peanuts (ok, maybe not the last bit).

Now you've done it. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PLOT BUNNIES I'VE GOT HOPPING AROUND IN MY HEAD ALREADY, WOMAN???

Sorry. Caps Were Necessary. ;-)

The closest I've come to doing circus was in my five-times fic, but it's been bubbling in the back of my mind ... do read

inkvoices' "The Nature of Dust" though, which is, like, the gold standard of circus fics.

I read that fic, it is fricken fantastic!!! Mind-blowingly so.

Also, if your muse wants you to write a circus fic, who are you to deny it? ;) (please please please listen to that muse!!!!)

I am also not counting on a Hawkeye or Black Widow, or combo movie...it would be amazing if it happens, but not seeing it. I think it would be fantastic if they did make one, and went a different route...less special effects, more story. Rated R, perhaps?

One can only hope. And failing that, we have fanfic. :D

Yes, but I'll take my fic Rated NC-17 please. Haha.

Just a note, I had to go through three 302 found links to get here, so there might be a problem with this page. :-/ (ETA: NVM. It's my computer. *headdesk*)

That said, I have ideas!

Snippet/ Cameo

At the end of Cap 2, Natasha getting home and Clint looking up from reading a book on the sofa.

"How was your day at work, honey?" (as an obvious joke, because he knows she's just spent a few days fixing SHIELD and dealing with the Winter Soldier.)

"Same old, same old" Natasha, body relaxing and face lighting up with a genuine smile when she sees Clint.

Then Clint says something offhand about the mission he was assigned to, which hints at an important plot point about Avengers 2 or Thor 2.

End scene.

(So pretty much alpha's snippet, now that I've gotten around to reading the other comments)
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Movies!

I love Hawkeye, but summer blockbusters need another movie about an American white guy like they need a hole in the head. Needless to say, my pitch is for a Black Widow movie. Or really the ideas behind my pitch, because the pitch itself would be snappier.

The Black Widow's strength is being a spy, so it would be a spy thriller, but it would also have Marvel type elements. When the Black Widow does her job, it's not seen on television or in the newspapers, so essentially it would be a story of her fighting an extremely powerful antagonist/ group, without them realizing until too late. There would be fight scenes, and a boss battle where Natasha outsmarts the superpowered guy or girl, but at the end of the day it would be an intellectual battle.

And the reason why the other Avengers don't show up? 1) It's a sensitive situation, and having to go onto television and newspapers would be disastrous for a gazillon different reasons. 2) Superpowered baddie has plans in place for each superpowered Avenger, and underestimates normals.

At the end of the day you could introduce some interesting villains and groups from the Marvel universe, plus explore the Black Widow's backstory and MO. If you chose the villain and what plot correctly, it could help build towards whatever arc they're going for in the next Avengers movie.

Edited 2013-08-16 23:08 (UTC)

YES to your movie proposal and rationale!!!! Whatever will be the moving premise for "Agents of SHIELD" being Avengers-free could doubtless be blown up and enlarged and translated back onto the big screen...

As for the similarity of our cameo dreams - great minds think alike! Let's hope Joss Whedon is of the same calibre of greatness as we are ... ;-)

So, here's my idea for one of those popular Marvel "shorts" that help give some background to a story, fill in missing time, or expand characters...

Title: Behind the S.H.I.E.L.D.: Budapest

Set up: In my world, Hawkeye and Black Widow are already top agents at SHIELD when the Budapest incident occurs. They are clearly dispatched there on a mission as Strike Team Delta.

Footage: We see quick snippets of surveillance footage of the team in tactical scenarios, hand-to-hand combat, shoot-outs, and lots of running and ducking in the streets. We see them end up in a crowded marketplace with "the bad guys" frantically looking around for them. They covertly acquire local attire and throw it over themselves to blend in. As the hostiles move in, Black Widow looks to prepare for a showdown when Hawkeye grabs her and spins her around, meeting her eyes. He brings his head down for a show-stopping kiss. They remain lip-locked while the hostiles glance right over them and continue out of the marketplace. When the coast is clear, they pull apart and give each other a deep look, nod, and then take off in the opposite direction.

Soooooo, in Cap 2: Cap and Black Widow find themselves in a crowded mall and while the hostiles are closing in, Widow brings Cap in for a big kiss. Again, the hostiles glance over them and move out. When they part, Cap, of course, looks a little star-struck. Widow nods to him and turns back around to keep moving. But, you see a ghost of a smile on her face and hear her barely whisper, "Now I get it. That's how HE remembered Budapest."

Love it!! Yes! :-) Provided Widow makes it clear which kiss she preferred -- maybe by tugging on That Necklace ...? ;-)

Excellent suggestion! I forget that not everybody thinks the way we do when it comes to these two.

Holy shit YES! I love it. Totally needs to happen. :D

SQUEEEE!!! This Please.

I really wish they would get their own movies but I also doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. I think that unfortunately there is little support in the industry in letting a female lead an action movie, or even be a costar. We can thank the crap that was Electra and Catwoman for that. I think Joss Whedon has pointed out numerous times that previous tries at it were bad and so there isn't interest in it which is shame. Also, I think that Jeremy's foray into the Bourne series didn't inspire confidence in his ability to be a box office smash on his own. The movie performed well and yes it got a sequel, but those numbers wouldn't have pleased Marvel and so I'm not sure if they have faith in him to carry his own movie either.

That being said I think that they are wrong and that there is an audience for a movie for these two What I want more than anything is a movie about Hawkeye bringing in the Black Widow. I think they are going to cover her origins in Cap 2, or else I would prefer that story. I think you could have a spy thriller of them playing games with each other and going back and forth. The latest Bond movies have shown that people do have a desire for smart spy movies with emotional depth. Skyfall and Casino Royale breathed life into that franchise. While the Marvel franchises are anything but failing, I think that adding a slightly darker, less big explosions movie could be very well received.

I (regretfully) think you are probably right about industry perceptions about JR -- although two $200m+ movies under his belt as headliner should be helping. He would need a strong script to carry it off, and a strong co-star (SJ hasn't yet headlined her own film either, but together they might just pull it off -- let's see how Cap2 does with her as co-lead).

If they did a smaller scale movie (less effects, for example), they would be able to make a profit with smaller numbers...but like you say, I don't know if Marvel will want to go there. It would be nice if it happened anyway. I know Black Widow and Hawkeye are supposed to have nice significant parts in Avengers 2 (although I can't imagine them being too great, because of everyone else in the film too), and in my daydream, the next movie after that would be their film. I don't see it but it would be amazing. I know they were talking about a BW movie at some point, don't talk and not deliver Marvel!

But you have to remember, neither Chris Hemsworth or Chris Evans were stars before their solo movies. And even now they have less name recognition than Scarlet Johansson.

And the reason we don't female led action movies isn't Electra and Catwoman, it's a complete lack of will from producers and the like. When you have mainly men telling stories, men are going to be the main characters. It's clear that Electra and Catwoman didn't make money because they were bad movies, as Green Lantern and most of the forgettable action movies of this summer didn't make money. Catwoman and Electra are an excuse, not a reason.

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