19 October 2012 @ 04:42 pm
All the things Friday: The Team edition  
hello dearest bar, I shall be your Friday host for the day. Today? Today we're going to discuss* all the things Clint/Natasha plus team (* discussion, but also welcome are fic recs, fanart, cast photos, videos, icons, comment fics, anything you find fun and nice and happy inducing and it has to do with our two favorite assassins and the team!Avengers). :)

Few thoughts from me at the beginning - one of the best things in The Avengers, in my opinion, is group dynamic between all main characters - I wouldn't even call it team dynamics, at least not until the final battle. The film presented us a group of truly extraordinary (and also quite frakked up) individuals who really had to struggle to reach a common ground and fight the mayhem at the same time. It's always interesting to notice that, among these people, two of them already have an established connection - once we got Clint back it was obvious, oh so obvious, that he and Natasha feel good around each other. They're already a team within a team, and it shows. During the final battle we saw all the pieces sliding into place. One of the interesting things I always notice and think about is how seamlessly Clint fits in, even though he just "jumped in" among the rest of them. I'd say it shows a lot about Clint's skills, training, and confidence; and also that he is capable being a flawless team player. (Also. I always find it interesting, how Natasha's primary motivation is to get Clint back, but the further the plot goes, the more she seems to realize that she needs to do the right thing, aka help the rest of Avengers to defeat Loki. After Clint wakes up, he seems to follow her (into the war), and in a way they become each other's motivation to join the fight, and Avengers.)

So. What do you think about the team? Do you think Clint and Natasha fit into the team easily, or are there bumps along the road' What do you think about team dynamic, which are your favorite friendships? Who is the prankster and who is the grumpy cat? Do you like team!fics, do you have any recs? If you write fics yourself, do you like writing about teamy moments, various Avengers friendships, jokes, bickering and so on? Who will adjust to the team with more ease, Clint or Natasha and why? There are more topics, I am sure, these are just the first things that pop to my mind. Feel free to add more things to the table, I don't want to overwhelm you.

Happy Friday and rock on!
 
 
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Ashen Key: London town[personal profile] ashen_key on October 19th, 2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
GOING TO BABBLE ABOUT THOR
Thor is a warrior, at the heart of it - he's straight-forward, far from stupid and yet he thinks in straight lines more than corners (unless it is military, because he knows how and when to sneak). So, I think he'd get along with Steve and Clint (if you have Clint doing Army before SHIELD, anyway).

He's also been raised a prince, which many people forget - he knows politics, albeit politics of another world. He's been raised in a Viking-esque culture, so I'd take less points from the comics and more hints from the Norse? Their cultures are not exactly the same, and yet, the Norse worshipped his kind. But he's been raised with a rich background of stories and culture - he has his own culture, which I find a lot of fics forget in favour of laughing at him.

And, yeah, he's xenophobic - he's been raised xenophobic, and no matter that he is genuinely trying to get over it and through it (presumably with no help from his culture - not sure about his peers or parents), he's got an arrogance and a superiority there that's not going away, and really shouldn't be forgotten. But at the same time, he's got a genuine wonder about him, too. Steve is...similar, but different. Very different. Steve is a kid, and in Avengers, he's a bitter one - Thor is older, far more experienced, with a genuine love for battle that Steve just doesn't have. But if Steve had to watch Bucky fall by accident, Thor had to watch as his brother deliberately let go - he saw his brother try and kill himself, and I think that's still bouncing around his skull, no matter what Loki is doing now.

But I don't think Natasha would think him a goofball - she's a spy who can, presumably, take on different cultures. She can recognize that he's been raised to be a leader and a prince, and he's an ally now. So, I think she'd take the time to understand him? I personally have a fic planned where they talk about siblings, as my Natasha was sisters with girls from the Red Room, and one of them, later, was massively self-destructive in 'doesn't care how many people die' way towards the end. So, in that fic, that is a point of shared grief and understanding between them - that sometimes you love someone, and it doesn't help and you have to let them go. (Not that...Thor is letting go of Loki for a while, he's too innately loyal for that.)

I guess maybe at the heart of it - view the team from Thor's POV first, if you can, and then flick it back to how they view him. The Stories That Stay With You is one of the best Thor-from-his-POV fics I've ever read, and has a lot of the team in it.

...and I'll stop babbling, oops.