19 October 2012 @ 04:42 pm
All the things Friday: The Team edition  
hello dearest bar, I shall be your Friday host for the day. Today? Today we're going to discuss* all the things Clint/Natasha plus team (* discussion, but also welcome are fic recs, fanart, cast photos, videos, icons, comment fics, anything you find fun and nice and happy inducing and it has to do with our two favorite assassins and the team!Avengers). :)

Few thoughts from me at the beginning - one of the best things in The Avengers, in my opinion, is group dynamic between all main characters - I wouldn't even call it team dynamics, at least not until the final battle. The film presented us a group of truly extraordinary (and also quite frakked up) individuals who really had to struggle to reach a common ground and fight the mayhem at the same time. It's always interesting to notice that, among these people, two of them already have an established connection - once we got Clint back it was obvious, oh so obvious, that he and Natasha feel good around each other. They're already a team within a team, and it shows. During the final battle we saw all the pieces sliding into place. One of the interesting things I always notice and think about is how seamlessly Clint fits in, even though he just "jumped in" among the rest of them. I'd say it shows a lot about Clint's skills, training, and confidence; and also that he is capable being a flawless team player. (Also. I always find it interesting, how Natasha's primary motivation is to get Clint back, but the further the plot goes, the more she seems to realize that she needs to do the right thing, aka help the rest of Avengers to defeat Loki. After Clint wakes up, he seems to follow her (into the war), and in a way they become each other's motivation to join the fight, and Avengers.)

So. What do you think about the team? Do you think Clint and Natasha fit into the team easily, or are there bumps along the road' What do you think about team dynamic, which are your favorite friendships? Who is the prankster and who is the grumpy cat? Do you like team!fics, do you have any recs? If you write fics yourself, do you like writing about teamy moments, various Avengers friendships, jokes, bickering and so on? Who will adjust to the team with more ease, Clint or Natasha and why? There are more topics, I am sure, these are just the first things that pop to my mind. Feel free to add more things to the table, I don't want to overwhelm you.

Happy Friday and rock on!
 
 
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[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com on October 20th, 2012 07:25 am (UTC)

Bruce is this brilliant man and a good person, and also a kind person, but after his accident he can't control himself. Or he can, but just barely. He thinks of himself as a monster, because that's how many people see him - this absolutely horrible and dangerous monster. he is aware how damage he can do, so he removes himself from human company and people he loves because he doesn't want to hurt them.


This really struck me. In the movie, Captain America says to Bruce Now would be a good time to get angry as the Leviathan approaches. Bruce says That's my secret Cap. I'm always angry. and Hulks out.

As I watched the movie again tonight, I paid particular attention to Bruce. In every scene, Mark Ruffalo played Bruce with an undercurrent of barely leashed, simmering anger. Most of the time, it was barely visible. To the average person, it would probably not be perceptible. Is it any wonder that Natasha was uncomfortable around him? Tony, on the other hand, was pretty much oblivious. And when he wasn't, he was blithely unconcerned. Not, I think, because he thought the Hulk couldn't crush him (sans Iron Man suit) into teeny tiny piece, but because Tony Stark underneath pretty much feels like if he dies, he dies.

I'm not sure how to explain that last statement. Tony Stark has always been reckless. Having faced his own death and come out the other side? I think has given him a very fatalistic viewpoint. That if he dies today then he dies today. He's not afraid of death, having faced it and come out the other side. maybe I am projecting. I was hit by a truck when I was 14 and flatlined in the ambulance. Spent 2 weeks in ICU and a month total in the hospital. I've looked at every day since as a gift. I don't want to die, but neither do I fear death.



[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on October 20th, 2012 07:34 am (UTC)
but because Tony Stark underneath pretty much feels like if he dies, he dies.

I love your observation. It does sound very true for Tony, and I haven't though about him that way - Tony is reckless, but there's also something touching about the way he treats Bruce. Like he's not afraid, and he isn't because Tony takes a look and sees both the man and the monster. Only in Tony's eyes, it's not a monster he sees, but possibilities. He keeps trusting that Bruce/Hulk will come and join them in the final battle, when nobody else believes it, because he keeps both sides of the coin in mind. But this is a two way street, I think, because of Tony's treatment Bruce is able to be both - both the kind (even constantly angry) man, and the Hulk. (I love how Tony says, "You might just enjoy it.")
[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com on October 20th, 2012 07:54 am (UTC)
Tony has grown to be very accepting of who he is, warts and all. So how can be be any less accepting of anyone else. Only when they actually try to harm him or someone he holds dear then watch out. He will stop at nothing to avenge a loss or take care of someone he cares for. Tony Stark loves deeply. The flip side of that? He can hate just as deeply.

Witness Obadiah Stane. This man was a second father to him. Tony loved him but when he found out Stane turned against him, he was willing to kill him. I'm sure he felt sorrow and sadness but he didn't hesitate.

And I wouldn't want to be in Nick Fury's shoes when Tony Stark finds out he lied about Coulson dying. It isn't going to be pretty.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on October 20th, 2012 07:57 am (UTC)
And I wouldn't want to be in Nick Fury's shoes when Tony Stark finds out he lied about Coulson dying. It isn't going to be pretty.

And I can't wait to see it *g*

I really really LOVE your thoughts on Tony, thank you for sharing!