We have always encouraged warnings for the all the things posts - it was even on the profile page until it was replaced with a link for the general rules post - and it is, of course, now a rule to always warn. This being the best bar, I'm sure everyone will endeavor to play nice :)

Ash's being sweet enough to post on my behalf, because people don't follow that rule and I have been triggered multiple times and no longer frequent the all-things-friday post (except when Ash has already been through it and given me the headsup on whcih threads are too dangerous for me).

There are NSFW and triggery fics, gifsets, and picspams posted without warnings and outside of cuts. I know it's funtimes, and the rule's always existed... but people aren't doing it. People often don't mentioned they're triggered by a thread or a post, because they're too busy being triggered to reply, and later too afraid of being re-triggered to try to find it.

/wet blanket?

Not a wet blanket :) I know you, and others, have mentioned it to me before and we try, but we don't always catch everything. We're hoping the new rules post helps. I know that people can't always raise issues when triggered, but it does have in there to contact a mod or the author if something is..suspect which will hopefully help as well *crosses fingers and toes*. I was just trying to add that I have high hopes for people being wonderful :)

:). Thanks.

I just think it'd be useful to post reminders in the Friday posts? Like in the post where people sign up to host, remind them to put a specific footer at the end of their Friday post. ("As always, please remember to warn and mark NSFW content in your title, and put images and .gifs behind spoilercuts [link to how that html works]," for example)

I haven't PM'd mods just because there are so many infractions in those posts... I feel like a jerk to go and e-mail the link to what triggered me, when I know there're more I haven't seen (like I'm singling the person out?) and they can't even be edited since people have replied?

♥

I think a reminder would be a good idea :) I'm note-taking on everything and we'll see what kind of a reminder we can come up with, although I think you have the bones of it.

It is always, always fine to PM a mod. We don't then single that person out and rage at them or anything, promise! We chat, we ask what they meant - because often people don't mean to offend anyone or trigger anyone or mess up etc or there can be crossed wires - and every so often we did amendments to the rules on the profile page and now we have a main rules post. What we are evolves, and a lot of that is about the feedback that we get. Even if things like the comments in all the things friday can't be edited, it would have raised it louder and we would have gone down the road of doing our best to solve so everyone is as happy as possible :)

Just seconding Inkvoices here, we try to catch these things, but sometimes things slip past us. Mods are only human! :) We created the new rules post and that will hopefully help things. I know I haven't been watching the comm as closely as I have in the past due to real life things, but I have resolved to watch for these things more closely in the future.

I understand the need for trigger warnings and have always encouraged the use of them. I have a few triggers myself.

Not saying mods aren't human or looking out for things; just pointing out a flaw that persistently exists in the Friday posts and needs acknowledgement and management.

Hope you're doing well, re: real life things.

Okay, thanks for pointing it out, we'll post warnings in the future or ask OPs to (since we can't edit other people's posts).

Thanks, :)

No worries, and apologies if I came across a bit short, real life is stressing me out.

We take any feedback about the comm very seriously and discuss things at length off-camera, so to speak. Running such a large community presents its challenges, and we never anticipated it would grow so much! Sometimes that means bigger things like changes to the community rules take longer to work though, especially since we have busy lives and are in different time zones. Rest assured we are taking these things seriously and are discussing how to best come up with a solution that suits everyone.

We acknowledge it; we're just working on the management bit, specifically how to balance keeping it all friendly and inclusive to people who want to kick back and relax as well as making sure everything is warned for and inclusive for images and people don't bash characters and everyone is happy and...oh, yeah, real life, have I eaten yet tonight? ;)

Also hoping all is well on the home front, Sugar *hugs*.

And not to repeat dictator_duck, but when things get gif-and-picture-heavy, I can't load the page. Or if I can, it wastes a lot of my very limited, very slow, very expensive internet. If people had more awareness of things like different internet usage internationally, that'd also be fabulous.

Otherwise, I just can't load the all things friday page, and that's not exactly being very inclusive.

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I have been sucked into living on this post tonight *grins* so I'm gathering intel and taking notes. What helps? I know just starting an image thread doesn't always, because until there are lots of comments to that thread the first few entries to it load anyway. Can people do lj-cuts in comments? Suggestions?

An image thread helps if people actually use it, and don't post ten graphics to one comment before it has time to collapse. Such as a general graphics thread, sub-divided within that thread for gifs, pics, picspams, etc - that will collapse a lot faster.

And people can do spoiler-cuts in comments, yep. So just say 'there are pictures under here!' + all warnings re: triggery material and sexual content, and then spoiler-cut, and that'd be MUCH more friendly. I've had to duck out of a lot of all-things-friday posts due to the number of graphics. And if people just want to have a post for graphics, then say in the post itself 'warning: graphics heavy'.

I don't know if image threads will work for some all the things friday posts, where things are a party atmosphere and spontaneous and images are part of a conversation, although for posts that we know are going to be image heavy it would work. And maybe a warning in the header that images have started to turn up, hmm.... We can't exactly police people starting to chat with images or gif wars or random icons (guilty as charged) and I know people don't always warn for those if they're not sexualised, although they should when they are... Maybe 'here be images, note if NSFW, warn if NSFW? *thinky thinky thoughts and taking notes*

Spoiler cuts, that would work :)

That makes sense! But yeah, if it's more organized party post, then a graphics thread is good. If not, then spoiler-cuts.

Parties aren't fun for those who can't join in, after all.

I think if it was a rec post version of all the things friday or one of our sectioned off ones, it'd work, but a lot of them are meant to be party time things. I'll put forward the spoiler-cut idea though, even if it's only until a thread collapses. Like I said, we can't police everything thought. (And, personally, I lean more towards keeping an eye on warnings, plagarism, people being nasty to each other, as my priorities when I have my mod eyes on.)

We do try to be as inclusive as possible at all times :)

I wasn't asking for policing, just an awareness? And yes, I'd rather you concentrated on warnings over graphics, too.

Well, we're aware, but that doesn't mean that everyone else is aware, which means that we need to do things to make sure that they're aware, which includes politely tapping people on the shoulder occasionally...which is what I call policing *shrugs* walking the beat kinda thing, y'know? Like I said, we work on it. We work on everything, we do we do *grins*. Yeah, we've been building up to that rules post and most of it is about warnings because we've been paying attention and wrestling with it. Fingers and toes crossed, my friend, fingers and toes crossed.