11 April 2014 @ 12:07 pm
ATTF Winter Soldier Discussion  
Hello bar, and happy Friday!

It's finally time to discuss Captain America: But It's Really A Black Widow Movie Winter Soldier!

So, what did you think? Come flail, discuss your head canons and your hopes for future MCU installments.

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inkvoices: avengers:natasha thinky[personal profile] inkvoices on April 12th, 2014 12:20 am (UTC)
I came out saying 'I HAVE THINKY THOUGHTS' and my other half who hadn't seen it yet replied, 'yes, but did you enjoy it?' And I basically went '...you need to watch this so I can tell you my THINKY THOUGHTS.' ;D There is a lot of modern security thinking packed into this film and I don't know whether to be hugely excited because I find that fascinating or be terrified at how plausible the thinking is.
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on April 12th, 2014 03:44 am (UTC)
YES. It's actually quite sophisticated, what they do with the security apparatus given how much of a growth industry it's been since 9/11, and the money that there is to be made in the creation of fear (or, in HYDRA's case, the philosphical/political advantages you can reap). The implosion of SHIELD will have incredible repercussions, but of course if you go from there to what I expect we see in Ultron, you will see the pendulum swing back because of the damage created by the absence of a credible security system.

Like you, I have feels/thinky thoughts/thinky feels about this whole thing.

I feel more fic coming on, too (shudders).
inkvoices: avengers:natasha thinky[personal profile] inkvoices on April 18th, 2014 07:25 pm (UTC)
[livejournal.com profile] spyforaday said something interesting (on the winter solider chat on my lj), along the lines of that Age of Ultron could be a result of trying to seperate technology from human error. They seem to see the technology itself as a thing, neither good nor bad, which becomes good or bad on the basis of the intent of the people putting it to use. So in Age of Ultron seperate that it and make the technology independent. My thought following that though is that technology designed by people, built by people, with data input by people...that it can never truely be seperated out.

On it filling the gap created by the absensce of a security system, my early thoughts were that the MCU has Tony with an AI and then with automated suits in IM3, and why would it be long before he thought about combining the two, and that SHIELD going could be a trigger for this. because maybe there's suddenly a lot more trouble in the world or at least less security agency dealing with it, so Tony feels Iron Man is needed in too many places at once, and in IM3 he had to give the armours intructions, so now he needs something that can act on its own. (Cue Avengers showing up, because you already have help, Tony and Tony being well where the hell have you all been then?!)