-_- yeah, I was side-eyeing that so hard. Just. Not appropriate, either for a co-worker or a friend, and it really struck me as OOC on Fury's part. Not to mention just.

Ugh.

I'm basically ignoring the entire epilogue (where that exchange is) as it doesn't fit my headcanon, but that exchange is just not going to happen between two professionals discussing a woman who is BFFs (or married, or whatever Clint/Natasha are) with one of them, and you can make case for daughter-father vibes with Fury and Natasha. Not to mention SHIELD has...an awful lot of women working for them...

Then again, I don't get why Clint was complaining - he and Natasha have different skills. He's probably pulled guard duty way more than she does, as SHIELD wouldn't need him as a sniper all the damn time. Just. *throws up hands*

I was enjoying the comic (just ignoring the way they were drawing Tasha), and then whoo, sexism that makes no sense!

Yeah, it seemed really inappropriate and OOC. Not to mention that 'I don't want women in a confined space with men' doesn't make any sense when Maria Hill is in the base.

Side note: I've seen an awful lot of hate directed towards Hill for supposedly 'replacing' Coulson and it makes me sad.

By the way, do you mind if I friend you?

Not to mention I seem to remember a female scientist working with Selvig. But I guess THEY'RE to be trusted not to go sleeping around with random soldiers/agents.

Poor Hill. I have mixed feelings towards her but that mainly comes from the cartoon XD

Or being hit on and causing trouble due to being SEXY. Because - you know, I can't even finish that line of thought. Ugh.

I adore Hill, and am ignoring alllll other canons involving her <.<

I also decided to ignore most of what I've read in Wiki about Hill!

It's very true! Guess the white coat dampens a girl's need to flirt with EVERYTHING IN THE ROOM.

Exactly. And there are other female agents, and other female scientists, and just. >.<

...but they have entirely different jobs! That makes no sense. And Hill is so fabulous.

Ooh, not at all! :)

Yay, friends!

Well, Coulson and Hill have similar jobs... I've also seen a lot of fics where Coulson outranks Hill, when I'm pretty sure it's the other way round. Hill's rumoured to be taking over Coulson's 'role' of SHIELD-superhero liason/babysitter in future movies and a lot of people are upset about that. Ugh, Coulson's awesome and all, but he's a replacable character in the end. The movies don't ride on whether or not he's alive or dead.

:)!

And hmm, I saw Hill as more Fury's XO, and Coulson is more of an important field agent of the kind who wear suits (as opposed to the more soldiery ones, where Hill seems to come from) - and, yeah, I'd say Hill outranks Coulson. Coulson does seem fairly high up himself, though.

And ohhh, gotcha, that makes sense. Although :-/ c'mon, fandom. A) Coulson may or may not be dead and b) it's okay to have another woman around. Really.

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The XO vs. field agent vibe was definitely what I got, especially with Hill's uniform matching the bridge crew's, and Coulson being the one who does everything important on the ground.

Even if she is going to be the coordinator for the Avengers, I just can't see her being their babysitter/getting personal with them like Coulson did. And if Coulson happens to be Well and Truly Dead, would they prefer a completely strange character stepping in? *sigh* Fandom...

Then again, I don't get why Clint was complaining

*puts on Shipper Hat* Hmm, um... he wanted her to be nice and safe stateside watching the glowy box while he went and did... something... more dangerous? Which I don't see happening 'cause if she found out about it she would break his face.

...and now I'm thinking about an AU where Natasha was in the lab when Loki showed up instead of Clint...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah, I don't see that happening, either. Well, the epic side-eye that Natasha would give him if she caught him, that I can see.

It would be interesting, I feel! Because, canon would run very differently if Loki had himself a master spy like Natasha instead of a solider like Clint. Nat and Clint have different skillsets, different modes of operating, and so on. I haven't actually seen an AU where Natasha got heartwashed, either.

I saw one on FF.Net. Sadly it was not very good. :(

Isn't that redundant? ;)

*grins* Truer words were never spoken!

I think a Loki'd Natasha would still be able to round up an anto-SHIELD strike team for him, but yeah, I don't see her actually leading it, at least not in the same way.

Yep, exactly - she'd be more "I know who to contact, and while you lead this part, I'll be sneaking around here", which would lead a different dynamic.

Of course, then someone has to get her down to de-heartwash her, which'd be different (I can't see Clint going up against her hand-to-hand - putting a tranq on her, though, that I can see.)

OOOH! That is a cool idea!

I was enjoying the comic (just ignoring the way they were drawing Tasha), and then whoo, sexism that makes no sense!

Yeah, I got thrown off by that exchange too. That sudden random bit of sexism was OOC for Fury, Clint, and Natasha herself.

(And I had to do my hardest to look past the way the artist was drawing Hawkeye... his Clint looked like generic square-jawed all-American hero, and sadly not one bit like Renner. In one panel I even had problems telling Clint and Coulson apart.

But apart from those things I actually liked the comic.

Oh, good, it wasn't just me who sometimes had trouble telling Clint and Coulson apart! Just. Yeah, the drawing wasn't the...best, I felt. Tended to have elements of generic the way through

I rather liked the artist who did the first chapter - nice lines, good likenesses. I mean, I've done fan comics myself so I know it's tricky to catch the likenesses consistently and I thought he did a really good job. Shame that the New Mexico part was drawn by other guys.

(Their Natasha, I could only identify by her red hair.)

Yeah, I was...actually, I was most disappointed by their Natasha. I can't draw anything, but movie!Natasha has a delicacy to her face and the lines of it, and that got replaced by 'random comic chick with red hair'.

Possibly another reason not to get into comics, the different artists and styles and looks would keep throwing me *g*