13 January 2017 @ 05:00 pm
ATTF: Title Talk  
This weekend let’s talk about titles!

When do you decide on the title for a fic? Do you usually know at the start and build the fic around the title, or are you the kind of person who scrambles to find one after the fic is complete? How do you chose your titles or get inspiration for them? Capitals or lower case? What’s your favourite title that you’ve come up with? Artists, how do you name your art?

What about other people’s titles, are there any that you especially like or that grabbed your attention? Are there any film, book etc titles that got you interested?

In today's ATTF:

a) post a comment chatting about any or all of the above. Let's have some conversations!

b) here's a thing that I found with a 'twenty titles for a writer' exercise. Pick one of your fics/peices of art/vids etc - either finished and already posted, or something new that you're working on - and have a go at this exercise. Post the results in a comment. Everyone else, which titles do you think work best?

Artists: here's an art of the title selection that's fun! Maybe pick a title - even a title from this weekend's ATTF - and play around with how you could make it look?

c) comment with ASK ME and a link to where people can find your creative works. People will then reply with one/some of your titles. Reply with where that title came from, why you chose it, your thoughts behind it.

d) ALL THE THINGS! This is, after all, entitled All The Things Friday ;)



You can sign up to host an ATTF, suggest ideas for future ATTFs, and see what's coming up in ATTFs HERE

Things to remember:
1) Always label NSFW (Not Safe For Work) stuff in the title and post under a cut.
2) Fic and artwork needs to have a rating and warnings (or you can say that you’ve chosen not to use warnings).
3) For people with annoying internet connections, say in the title if a comment is graphic/images/gif-heavy and post picspams under a cut.
4) Have a damn good time! (Because if that’s not happening then this post has clearly failed.)
 
 
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[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on January 16th, 2017 05:02 pm (UTC)
RE: ASK ME Thread
Well, that - "Show a Little Faith (There's Magic in The Night)" (http://archiveofourown.org/works/1177731) was an odd choice for a title, and one I kind of regret. In fact, in the wee hours of the morning I blame that title for the fact that this little story - which I am actually quite proud of - hasn't done better than it has. I adore the line from the Springsteen song, as such, but in hindsight I don't think it works as a title (even if it fits the story) precisely because it says too much. It's one of those moments where, I think, my choice of title violated the "show, don't tell" rule. But I think I'm stuck with it now.

As for "Diamonds and Rust", well, I came across this old Joan Baez gem and started listening to it - really listening to it - while cooking dinner, on my computer and the little bluetooth speaker my husband gave me for it because he can't stand the tinny computer sound. And it struck me just how many echoes there are to the Clint & Kate relationship:

"Well you burst on the scene
Already a legend
The unwashed phenomenon
The original vagabond..."


Hello, Clint!

And this (Kate!):

"...Yes the girl on the half-shell
Would keep you unharmed.."


And then that whole "we both know what memories can bring, they bring diamonds and rust" - which at the end of the Fraction run pretty much sums up where they are, and they choose to go for the diamonds part in that glorious shooting scene at the end.

Yeah, another story I think that deserved a wee bit better than it got, but I'm happy with it and that's what matters.



Edited 2017-01-16 06:47 pm (UTC)
inkvoices: avengers:natasha thinky[personal profile] inkvoices on January 20th, 2017 11:55 pm (UTC)
Re: ASK ME Thread
Does it bother you when you see other people's fics with long titles or just when it's your own? I suppose 'bother' is the wrong word...puts you off? *is curious*

Love how Diamonds and Rust fits with Fraction & Aja's Hawkeyes *happy sigh*
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on January 22nd, 2017 05:40 pm (UTC)
RE: Re: ASK ME Thread
Well, to be perfectly blunt, one of the things about really long titles is that they're very, very hard to remember. Like, I will end up looking for the fic where x, y and z happens but I can't for the life of me remember what it's called. This is especially the case when it's a line from a song I've never heard, or a poem I haven't read. Nothing for my data banks to file it under quickly. Do such titles put me off? Honestly? A little, yeah. Including that one of mine, now. Oh well...

Edited 2017-01-22 05:46 pm (UTC)
inkvoices: girl writing b&w[personal profile] inkvoices on January 22nd, 2017 10:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Re: ASK ME Thread
Wouldn't ask if I wasn't interested in knowing :) I've had that searching problem, but for me the length of the title isn't what makes me remember it or not. I think more if it's directly related to the fic and quirky.
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on January 22nd, 2017 10:40 pm (UTC)
RE: Re: Re: ASK ME Thread
Well, I guess I have a limited attention span and if a title is a whole sentence, I am doomed. The fic I will remember, yes. The title, at best vaguely... Like, my favourite fic of yours I just had to look up the title for (I tried to remember first ...). I remembered bits ("... and what you take with you") but not the whole thing. And that's even though I love that fic passionately. :P
inkvoices: girl writing b&w[personal profile] inkvoices on January 22nd, 2017 10:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Re: Re: ASK ME Thread
I will also cheat and just remember who something is by and go through all their stories - bless AO3 *grins*. I have FAR TOO MANY bookmarks on my laptop, so that's stopped being helpful unless I have lots of time to trawl through and has the downside of having the link to lots of old fics having gone. Least those still have the title in the save so I can search and see if the author uploaded it onto a new archive.

That...would be a title from a poem that you've probably not heard of *sheepish grin* - history is what you've travelled on and take with you. (Also squee :D ) Sometimes I am in favour of the thing someone else mentioned on here of borrowing from Friends - The One With Where Clint Is A Tattoo Artist. Because I know I think of other people's fics like that, ha.

Edited 2017-01-22 11:00 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on January 22nd, 2017 11:21 pm (UTC)
RE: Re: Re: Re: ASK ME Thread
Well, in your case I always know how to find it (bookmarked, plus you plus title fragments). :P And yes, it's The One With The Tattoos.

Broken links to favourite stories is a heartache. I still miss Workerbee73's pieces. A friend had the teenage makeout fic downloaded so I have that, but not my real fave (whose title I forget...)
inkvoices: avengers:clint comic miscalculation[personal profile] inkvoices on January 26th, 2017 11:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Re: Re: Re: ASK ME Thread
Fair enough *grins*

I have fragments of 'small acts of kindness' but get grumpy about the gaps and I have a bunch of others saved as .mobi files. (Are you thinking of Equilibrilists or History's Mistakes maybe?) One day I will figure out how to make those readable :/ But it's all the fics from the days before ff.net and AO3 took off that were hosted on specific sites now closed down from misuse and old journals and platforms. Sad.