02 November 2012 @ 06:56 pm
All The Things Friday: Popular Culture  
Welcome to another All The Things Friday! Popular culture is usually something that people discuss in terms of Steve or Thor, specifically their lack of recent pop culture knowledge, but I find it interesting that when it comes to Clint and Natasha every fic I’ve read seems to have a different take.

For example, there are fics where the Avengers have film nights and Natasha doesn’t recognise the films, or she likes black and white movies, or she likes to correct the moves in martial arts films, or she likes musicals, or… When it comes to Clint and music we’ve had great discussions over what music he likes and if he can play the guitar, but then sometimes Natasha recognises the music, sometimes she doesn’t, sometimes she likes it, and sometimes she prefers classical. And so on.

What books, films, television shows, music, etc. do you think our Master Assassins like? Does Natasha like American pop culture, Russian pop culture, or hate pop culture, or hate aspects of pop culture? Was she familiar with American pop culture from her early training, or did she miss out as a kid and she doesn’t care, or she missed out and Clint teaches her? Is she more international in her pop culture tastes? Does she even see the point of pop culture?

What about Clint? If there’s any pattern that I’ve seen it’s that Clint is the more knowledgeable of the two about American pop culture at least, but at the same time SHIELD is often depicted as sending him all over the globe. Has he picked up on international pop culture himself? Has he missed out on pop culture whilst he’s been busy at SHIELD or whilst he may have been out of the country in the Armed Forces or what have you in the past? Does he care about pop culture, or not care, or care about some aspects in particular?

I have a lot of questions, folks, and no answers, just lots of ideas, because I love that all of these and more can be true considering the little that we know about Clint and Natasha from the films. So bring your thinky thoughts, your recs of creative things in which pop culture is a thing, your graphics, new fics or fic ideas, all of the things! Or just grab a drink, settle in, and have a happy Friday :D
 
 
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[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
Another bit of headcanon.
Dancing. They're both decent dancers, well Natasha is more than just decent - ballet and ballroom dances were all part of her training. As for Clint, whom I see as musical, and quick learner, and knower of many things, I think he learned everything he possibly could along the way and dancing was there as well.

In one fic I had them practice dancing for missions, in other he danced with her whenever she was feeling distressed, in third they danced (tango) when they first met (and he told her he had no wish to kill her). I think dance can be a good metaphor for their dynamic. To me, they are tango, if I had to pick a dance that represents them, and Natasha on her own is flamenco, because I see all of that intensity and passion to live and survive wrapped in her. Clint, he is more like a slow guitar tune that only sounds simple - actually, to me he is this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh2GFoDae8Y) - but he adapts well and if Natasha needs a dancing partner, for purposes of mission or simply for comfort, he's there.

Also, I blame my dancing headcanons largely on this picture:

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franztastisch: winchester[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
YES YES YES ALL OF THIS. Dancing. Oh man I have so many feels for the two of them dancing. And they look devastating doing things like the pasodoble and other Latin dances. Like the Argentine tango. Oh my.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
I need to write a fic about dances only. I PHYSICALLY need it.

Oh and yes, paso. How much you wanna bet he'd end up on the floor half the time at the end?
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Oh my God SO MANY TIMES.

Please please write this. I will pay you (with all that money I don't have) to do this. PLEASE.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Done deal, baby! You don't have to ask me twice for this; I'll write it for you. I'll go and come up with a playlist :D GOD I LOVE DANCING AND I LOVE THEM DANCING.
franztastisch: bench[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
I KNOW NOTHING OF DANCING BUT I'M SURE GLAD YOU DO ELSE THIS COULD END BADLY. AS IT STANDS I AM SUPER EXCITED. :D :D
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
I know a bit (I learned some! And I adooooore it!!) and I think I can get away with it. ;) *nods*
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Woot! (btw adding you. :D)
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
ADDS YOU RIGHT BACK.
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
\o/
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
So, how does this work for tango? Libertango by Astor Piazzolla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdoHeJBbNs0).
franztastisch: change my world[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Ooh I like! Though now I am going to be really embarassing and point out Nicole Scherzinger going the Argentine Tango on Dancing with the Stars because it is both AWESOME and the music is great. For reference purposes obviously.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
GOTAN PROJECT!!! DUDE YOU'VE GOT MY NUMBER. Also, not lame, I like that show, actually croatian version is just about to begin! *g*
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 07:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
I used to watch the British version (Stricty Come Dancing) but then I stopped because it became more... "celebrity" focussed and less about the dancing. So... And I only found this because I was looking up Nicole Scherzinger on youtube for... ha. Um. I got totally into her song Poison. I judge myself for it sometimes. BUT IT IS AN AWESOME SONG.
franztastisch: winchester[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 09:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
I just thought of something. I also picture them dancing to swing/rockabilly numbers when they're happy and feel like doing something fun - though it will always be Clint that initiates. Music like Pennyslvania 6-5000 (though this is the live version) and/or Jump Jive 'n' Wail by the Brian Sezter Orchestra. But that's just me.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Okay, question. Clint is a very manly dude (something I love, love, love) - does he feel manly enough to dance hip swaying stuff like cha - cha and samba?
franztastisch: winchester[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Yes. Because he thinks it makes him look sexy (it does) and it makes Tasha laugh. Also it means Tasha has to do hip swaying stuff, which he is totally on board with.
[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on November 3rd, 2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
DONE DEAL.
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 3rd, 2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
:D
[identity profile] crazy4orcas.livejournal.com on November 4th, 2012 12:24 am (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
You guys are seriously killing me here! Tangos? Clint hip swaying? Clint making Natasha laugh?

*swoons*
franztastisch[personal profile] franztastisch on November 4th, 2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Another bit of headcanon.
Haha! Our work here is done.