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03 December 2012 @ 02:24 pm
Hello you rainbow people!  
Hey everyone!

I hope it's all right to just go ahead and post like this - if not, just shout at me, I can take it.

I am brand-spanking new to the fandom and, therefore, the community. I've always had it in the back of my mind to get my teeth into the Avengers fandom (especially Clint/Natasha), but kinda never dared to. But after a recent Avengers rewatch, I just had to. Not to mention the fact that I watched basically every Renner movie under the sun this weekend ... Momma needs MOA Renner/Clint.

But first, maybe a bit more about me? Am 24, from Germany and/or England (It's a bit confusing ...), started out eons ago in the HP fandom (Yahoo groups and shipping wars for the win!), high-jacked myself through the Pirates, Doctor Who and Buffy fandom (and a LOT of other little ones on the side ...) and recently got a little too involved in everything Nathan Fillion (And if Whedon doesn't give him a role in Avengers 2, I'm gonna do ... things) and, well. I love my movies and my TV Shows with a passion xD So, 'nuff 'bout meself :P

To get my bearings in a new fandom, I typically start off with reading fic and hence - it would be absolutely brilliant if you guys could rec me some of the "classics" of this couple. I've had a nosey, but haven't really found anything long to really get lost in - maybe you guys can help?

I love my fics long and twisted and emotional and dark and fluffy and smutty and ... just, you know, EVERYTHING! (Me? Demanding? Nah, neva!) So is there fic out there that is all kinds of long and twisted?

I don't really care about the setting. It can be pre-movie (Budapest, anyone?), AU (I read this one Highschool AU that was BRILLIANT!) or post-movie - everything goes (Uh, well written baby-fic ... it's an unhealthy addiction!)! :D So uhm ... yeah, just throw it all at me :D

Also - I might already be in love with this community. Considering how everything seems to be rainbows and unicorns and nothing hurts (This comm, I like it! ANOTHER!) so .. WEEEE, super excited to be here!

*hugs and rainbow-coloured cupcakes for everyone!*

distel

PS: no, I haven't got proper iconage yet, am on the hunt :P
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Ashen Key: la la la[personal profile] ashen_key on December 3rd, 2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
Of course, the trouble with classics is that it creates fanon and influences things - if you write at all, it'd be interesting to see what you came up with before you devour all the links we toss your way (not that I tend to dance to my own headcanon's beat, or anything like that ;-) )

That said, I think the only proper "classic" is gyzym's "we were emergencies" (which granted I haven't read, for various reasons, but it's the one most people seem to rec. But [livejournal.com profile] inkvoices (both here and at her journal) are generally very good, and I'd go and have a look at the masterlist of the promptathon for a lot of what we all wrote over a couple of months.

And while it's neither long nor smutty, for classics, I recommend the first Clint-used-to-be-a-hawk fic (the first to my knowledge, anyway): Don't Have Wings But Want To Fly

And welcome to the fandom!

Edited 2012-12-03 10:54 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] purely-distel.livejournal.com on December 4th, 2012 10:47 am (UTC)
Uuuh, interesting take! It is true, fanon has a way of making things "normal" and, well, fanon ... never thought of it quite like that. I do write of and on. I am not a bad writer, I know that, but I am inconsistent. Sometimes I pull all-nighters and throw fic out left and right and then I lose my muse and stop writing for months on time. I'm just warped like that.

But I am not sure I'd trust myself to just jump in and write. I tend to firtly gather as much knowledge about a character/fandom as possible, hearing as many "voices" as I can, before finding my own way ... never tried it the other way ... maybe a new challenge? ;)

Sadly, I won't be able to really write anything for a while :/ I'm basically operating from a phone atm, while occasionally using my bffs netbook. As a recent Uni graduate that's working 3 jobs to stay afloat, I have no money to buy a new computer :(

BUT - didn't mean to babbling my life story all over you. I just thought it really interesting, the approach you have to fanon and writing etc.

And, obviously, thank you for the recs!
Ashen Key: la la la[personal profile] ashen_key on December 4th, 2012 11:11 am (UTC)
♥ It's all fine! And trust me, I get the sporadic thing, too - I lost my muse for a few months there, and then I got bit by Avengers, and have written *glances at AO3 account*...39 fics 0.o Gosh. Um.

And yeah, I used to do what you're planning! Probably still will with other fandoms. But then I found with Avengers that a friend and I RPed Nat and Clint just after seeing the movie, and then we found fic, and our characterization was very different. So now I'm really curious what happens when you don't read much fanfic - one of my friends wrote a gorgeous Natasha character-study called love is for children and other lies which is pretty close to a lot of fanon (although with an asexual!Natasha), so of an example base of three, I'm intrigued. But in the meantime, obviously, there are all the shiny fics. :D

The AO3 collection for the promptathon is here, and that's not everything - sadly I've lost the link to the original two masterposts for LJ.

One thing I meant to add this morning but I forgot is about an AU that should be more of a staple than it is. What-if it was Natasha in New Mexico when Loki arrived instead of Clint. I've seen a few fics with it, but none I'd say are 'classic'. So, here are two takes from the promptathon:

I Think You Worried for Me Then... (the serpent's tale has come undone) by [livejournal.com profile] cybermathwitch

and

with your finger on the world by, uh, me. Not that I mean to toot my own horn, but I think they are a pretty good example of the differences that fandom can come up with the same characters and same situation.

BUT ANYWAY. I hope you enjoy your stay, and we don't tend to bite, so no need for stage-fright re: fic at all :D (and oops, so sorry about the messed up html in my comment above, I juuuuust noticed.)
inkvoices: avengers:jeremy renner b&w[personal profile] inkvoices on December 5th, 2012 12:12 am (UTC)
That's an interesting take on 'classics'. I don't know it we actually have fics that have influenced this new fandom yet in such a way that fanon becomes canon almost - I remember I was chatting in the Harry Potter fandom once, saying something, and then having to stop and ask if what I was saying was from the books, films, or just something the fandom had collectively adopted. I like to think that because we have so little to go on we go in all directions, and that someone writing one fic idea makes other people want to write it a different way, or another idea that bounces off it, and that we haven't exhausted the ideas yet, heh. But yeah. Do you think if fandoms end up with 'everyone must read these ten fics' type things that it...limits (?) things?

Wow, thanks for the rec *happy dance* :D

On the promptathon, you say further down you've lost the master lists? If you go to the comm's recent entries the first master list, with a link to the second, is a sticky post at the top of the comm and the promptathon tag has some of the belated stories :)

Have you read [livejournal.com profile] dictator_duck's I'm alive and I'm free (who wouldn't want to be me?) as well? Their Clint-was-a-bird stories make me smile a lot.
Ashen Key: books books books[personal profile] ashen_key on December 5th, 2012 06:19 am (UTC)
I don't know it we actually have fics that have influenced this new fandom yet in such a way that fanon becomes canon almost

I wouldn't say fanon is nearly canon yet, but be_comp in particular does have a lot of similar ideas running through it - memes and ideas that take off and influence (rope!fic, anyone?). There is, obviously, still lots of different takes and different things (I think the Friday discussion on Clint and Natasha with and as children proved that). But I think fics - and popular fics, and fics that appeal to a group of people - do end up influencing things, even just subtly. It's just the nature of ideas - they bounce around, they lodge in people's minds, they get incorporated, etc.

Do you think if fandoms end up with 'everyone must read these ten fics' type things that it...limits (?) things?

I do, unless they are a wide range of styles and characterizations and plots (although, even then). And also, it can be....alienating? to those who end up disliking those fics. (so says the woman who is a fantasy geek without liking Lord of the Rings - it's a similar thing)

You rec lists are pretty awesome! They should be shared :D

And ahah, as [livejournal.com profile] dictator_duck is my partner in crime, I absolutely have read it. I adore all of her fic.