04 January 2013 @ 08:50 pm
ALL THINGS FRIDAY: Presents! (Assassins & spies are so difficult to shop for!)  
*koff*   *koff*

Um, is this thing on? *taps mike on the kareoke stage*

*SQUEAL!*   Ooops, sorry! Guess it is!

Hello, everybody! Welcome to the first All Things Friday hosted by Me - Vanessa, AKA TaleWeaver. I hope the time zone thing hasn't confused everyone? It's Friday evening down here in Australia, anyway. Is everyone feeling the love in this bar tonight?

*roar rattles the windows*

Wow, we've got a ton of great people around here! But then, we all know this is the very best bar!

Anyway, tonight's topic... well, it's pretty obviously inspired by the awesome Secret Santa that's been running around here. (hey, I think Koren M's still got a few presents left to hand out, even!) And it is still technically the twelve days of Christmas, so today's topic is....
GIFTS THAT NATASHA AND CLINT HAVE GIVEN EACH OTHER
(or joined forces to give to someone else)

What kind of things do they give each other?
Ranging from the practical, to the sentimental (for them), to the stuff that makes Coulson facepalm once he’s out of sight behind a closed door.

What occasions are gifts given for?
Do they get hustled into the Helicarrier Secret Santa (where everyone dreads getting Nick Fury, because they always wind up getting him something black)? Do they get each other birthday presents, or to celebrate the anniversary of the day they met / their first mission together / first kissed / XXX / 50th time one of them saved the other's life / admitted in public they were married? Or is their gift giving of the sporadic but constant 'I was hiding out from a hit squad in Paris, found this in a little shop on the Left Bank, thought you'd like it' variety?

Have they ever done the 'couple' thing and joined forces to give a present to someone else?
Maybe Coulson found a wheelchair with 'Agent on Board' on the back and holsters for guns, coffee and paperwork along the sides waiting for him once he was out of MedBay for that nasty stab wound? Has Colonel Fury found an anonymous package on his desk, and opened it to find a collection of eyepatches decorated according to holiday themes? (ie a heart for Valentine's Day, a four-leaf clover for St Patrick's Day, a skull and crossbones for International Talk Like a Pirate Day, and so on). Did Tony get a box of pamphlets for erectile dysfunction aides the first April Fool's Day after Natalie Rushman started working for him? Or did a former head of the KGB get a rocket-launched grenade down his chimney on the anniversary of the day Nat escaped the Red Room?

Heck, you could even write / rec something about how difficult they are to shop for!

 
 
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[identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 10:47 am (UTC)
One of them totally has a foreign gift shop knick-knack that the other gave them--it's something dreadfully tacky like one of those pens that you tip and it makes the little elevator go up the Eiffel Tower, or a shamrock sealed in plastic that says "I Kissed the Blarney Stone," or a keychain or a tiny bobbing duck or something like that. And they have it with their gear--snapped into a spot on their uniform or holster or whatever--wherever they go, as long as they aren't undercover. When I wrote A Rogue and Peasant Slave (http://archiveofourown.org/works/411534) I had Loki show Natasha something that proved to her that he'd overcome Clint, but I didn't say what it was; I let the reader imagine what it was--could be a thing, could be something grisly like a torn clump of hair (or worse). But I've always assumed it was a tacky gift shop trinket like that.
[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 03:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, I like that idea of them, or at least one of them, carrying foreign gift shop trinkets! That sounds sweet.
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[identity profile] purely-distel.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 11:19 am (UTC)
to the stuff that makes Coulson facepalm once he’s out of sight behind a closed door.

I demand that someone writes this. Just saying xD

*will now continue to read the rest of the post*

EDIT: Scratch that, I WANT ALL THE FICS! WITH THE EYEPATCH AND THE WHEELCHAIR AND THE ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION AND EEEEVERYTHING!

*quick cough*

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[identity profile] frea-o.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 01:06 pm (UTC)
This has actually already been written. I didn't rec this in this bar because it's gen, but it's Clint and Natasha dealing with terrorism at one of Chicago's Christkindlmarkts, and it's flippin' brilliant. Christkindlf***up (http://copperbadge.tumblr.com/post/37434407766/elidust-undercover-mission-02-budapest). It's by copperbadge, and though he rates it G, there's a tiny bit of language. But there's an entire bit where Coulson laments all of the strange presents Clint and Natasha have given him ove the years.
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[identity profile] dictator-duck.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 11:40 am (UTC)
So in my headcanon (and ashen_key's), Clint is an ex-army ranger, and in the process of researching this I found a WEBSITE. Which sells shirts for women. Which Natasha has definitely received at least one of the following for a gift:

(Fair warning: the websites has some machismo and jingoistic BS)

[IMG SRC="http://www.infidelsincorporated.com/shop/images/thumbnails/0/320/320/ssf.jpg" ALIGN="left" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="10" TITLE="shirt 1"]

[IMG SRC="http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50863389838911_2244_57103424" ALIGN="left" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="10" TITLE="shirt2"]

--

Natasha has definitely gotten Clint a cowboy hat, because of how much country music he insists on indoctrinating her with. He never wears it, but it's still in his apartment, on his TV or topping off a lampshade.

(Mostly ashen_key and my Clint and Nat buy each other relatively inexpensive things, if anything at all. It's their way of going "la, la, what is this, gifts being meaningful? Hahahaha um" in a totally mature manner)
[identity profile] nessataleweaver.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 12:27 pm (UTC)
WHERE IS THIS WEBSITE??? I have at least one 'verse too where Clint is an Ex Army Ranger... this could be most useful.
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[identity profile] dictator-duck.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 11:43 am (UTC)
post was marked spam ):. Pls to unspam ♥
[identity profile] nessataleweaver.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 12:19 pm (UTC)
I don't know how it got marked up in the first place (I didn't touch it) but I'm pretty sure I've unspammed it now.

And Nat definitely got the second T-shirt. She wears it to lunch/dinner in Avengers Tower when Tony is being especially annoying (sometimes even breakfast, if he's been blowing things up the night before).

Fury got the first one - he wears it while passing out the gifts for the Secret santa at the helicarrier Christmas /Hannukah/ Kwanzaa/ Winter Solstice/ Yuletide holiday of your culture/choice. HE tells everyone it refers to the two kinds of christmas cookies at the buffet table, and everone else is too scared to differ.

(Actually, Clint accidentally ordered it in the wrong size, and gave it to Fury anonymously as a gag gift. Fury wears it to prove to Coulson that he can make ANYTHING look badass - the first year, it was the first time Coulson had ever lost a bet, and now Fury wears it every year since to rub it in.)

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[identity profile] frea-o.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 01:23 pm (UTC)
Gift Fic Recs!
Hee, I've seen several fics that cover this kind of subject and am actually kind of working on one at the moment (I've been commissioned to write a fic where the team celebrates Tony's birthday, but everybody forgets until the last minute, including Pepper. Please, if you can think of what Pepper might give Tony, PLEASE LET ME KNOW I AM STUCK). But here are some of the ones I remember:

[livejournal.com profile] anuna_81 at this bar has written a kind of cracky fic where Clint discovers a lush store and immediately everybody in his life starts getting lush-smelling presents. I think she's got it under friends only, but you should totally read it if you can (http://anuna-81.livejournal.com/616274.html).

I rec'd this to [livejournal.com profile] purely_distel above, but Copperbadge's Christkindlf***up (http://copperbadge.tumblr.com/post/37434407766/elidust-undercover-mission-02-budapest) has a hilarious bit where Coulson fears the presents Clint and Natasha bring back for him and even has a special shelf for them.

Self-pimping mode, but I wrote a tiny companion piece to Nobody Puts Dummy in the Corner where Clint and Natasha go souvenir shopping for the others on their trips abroad because they get to travel more than everybody else, which you can read here (http://frea-o.livejournal.com/7941.html?thread=17157#t17157).

And there was a fic posted awhile back where Natasha gets a kick out of being everybody's secret santa, but I can't remember where to find it.

The eyepatch they give Fury for Guy Fawkes Day is rather spectacular, I must admit.

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[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 01:39 pm (UTC)
Re: Gift Fic Recs!
Great recs, frea :) I think the one with Nat being everyone's secret santa was a comment fic in the All the things friday before Christmas... Haven't looked it up yet though, but that is where I think I saw it :D

And the Christkindlf*ckup is hilarious and when I read it for the first time there was a Christmas Market in front of my house :) So it really fit in the mood :D
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[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 03:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Gift Fic Recs!
Oh, Anuna is going to unlock that post. And write more of it after she wakes up, because Anuna's brain is absent at the moment.
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[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
T-shirts. Since Natasha always steals Clint's (she puts them on when she sleeps at his place, after ... you know ... and then fails to give them back) he started to buy truly awful ones that he thought she wouldn't ever wear in a million years. Unfortunately this backfired spectacularly -- the more inappropriate, the more she likes them. And so he has finally figured out a way in which he can give her presents (which she otherwise would just refuse).

Her favourites are from his Guantanamo Bay collection: "The Taliban Towers -- Finest Four Star Accommodation in the Caribbean" (comes with silhouette of the detention camp); "Life Is Better On An Island" (with a bright-green picture of a Cuban rock iguana); and the one with the Jack Nicholson quote on it ("I eat breakfast in front of 5,000 Cubans who are trained to kill me ...". That last one she actually wore in semi-public, during a sparring session, and Coulson's been trying to get one for himself ever since.

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[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 04:01 pm (UTC)
zomg dude, please tell me he got a cheesy-ass airbursh t-shirt when he was in the Florida panhandle, complete with a palm tree sunset background and the words "CLINT 'N TASHA" in big scrolly letters.

she might honestly be appalled by that one.

(clint wears it all the time just to annoy her.)

((sleeves cut off, of course. you've got to do this right.))
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[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 03:51 pm (UTC)
Back when Bob and I were writing the 'small acts' series we talked a lot about when/if Clint and Natasha would ever move in together, and I had this idea for a story where Nat kept leaving presents at Clint's place-- beautifully wrapped, but with no note and no seeming occasion. And the presents were kind of strange. A collection of rare books, a really good coffeemaker, luxurious bedsheets, a cashmere blanket. They're great and all, but really not Clint's thing. He spends the entire story trying to figure out what they mean only to realize that this was Nat's sweet/sneaky way of asking/telling him that she wanted to move in together.

She was just bringing his apartment up to spec. ;)

I still have a draft of this somewhere. Maybe one of these days I'll finish it.
[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 03:58 pm (UTC)
Muahahaha, I can totally see this happening :D
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[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 04:18 pm (UTC)
So recently I wrote this pile (http://head-on-home.livejournal.com/17713.html) of Christmas cheese fluff and there were gifts, aka other Avengers giving Clint and Natasha very specific kind of gifts.

Other than that my brain just paused today... I am enjoying your discussions right now. I do see these two as pranksters, getting each other stuff that makes the other's eyes roll, you know. And then when one buys a "serious" gift, something the other person really loves (like, there's a book about ballet Natasha's been trying to find and couldn't and she didn't talk about it, but Clint found out) -- when he gets her that book, it means something.

I can also imagine Natasha as a person who's able to give awesome gifts - find out what the other person values/needs/wants and get them that. And she's very humble about it.

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[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
I see Nat similarly re: presents. I also think she's a "go big or go home" kind of girl. She buys the best-- you totally want to be on her christmas list.

And I dunno, I think it might stem from not being too comfortable always expressing emotions verbally. Maybe that's why she so good with gifts. It's all the things she wants to say but doesn't quite feel comfortable putting into words.

I think Clint's gifts tend to be smaller and simpler, and very much from the heart. And omg I need him making stuff. I need him building her furniture all the time. I need all the woodworking/carpentry fic!

Ahem. Ignore me.


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(Anonymous) on January 4th, 2013 04:29 pm (UTC)
For those that write Clint
as a military man. Be it Army Ranger, Delta Force, etc. Then he is mostly likely walking around rocking shirts that could be bought somewhere like here:
http://www.rangerup.com/mensgear.html
http://milspecmonkey.com/store/
Although it might require and adjustment in the way people write him, since it seems he is always portrayed as this really nice guy, who might have some trouble fitting in with the hyper male, testosterone driven, Generation Kill-esque community.
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[identity profile] shadoedseptmbr.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 05:26 pm (UTC)
I don't know that I have headcanon for gifts, so much...although I am a fan of the idea that they buy tacky t-shirts for each other and that Clint always cuts the sleeves out. But I do have it tin the back of my head that when they go on missions that are completely black, they leave a small token that indicates the area they'll be going to. And it might not make logical sense, especially if it's a place that has backstory for them, but it gives the other a place to start if there's trouble.
[identity profile] shenshen77.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 05:33 pm (UTC)
Oh, I that's great! It's like an emergency beacon, awesome! I think you've just given me a plot bunny :D Could I run with that?
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[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2013 05:50 pm (UTC)
I do have it tin the back of my head that when they go on missions that are completely black, they leave a small token that indicates the area they'll be going to. And it might not make logical sense, especially if it's a place that has backstory for them, but it gives the other a place to start if there's trouble.

Dude, i love this. LOVE it.
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Ohhhh, I just went through this *twice* in the last month! Once for a Clint/Coulson, where Natasha is family, which I knew I was going to have to come up with presents for it, because the epilogue is Coulson just sort of blithely orchestrating Christmas (in that one, Natasha gives him a pile of cashmere sweaters (practical, yet luxurious) because he hates wearing coats, and as she says, she's tired of watching him freeze and he puts together a necklace for her of charms that tie back to their life together.)

That was stressful enough, but then presents snuck in on the Clint/Natasha -- the fabric Clint brings back for her from Bangkok, which she could have politely ignored, but instead has made into something she still wears.

They are *very* hard to shop for though!
[identity profile] shadoedseptmbr.livejournal.com on January 5th, 2013 12:34 am (UTC)
I think so too...I mean, I would imagine that neither of them accumulates much stuff, that they maintain very small flats until they go to the Tower and those sorts of people are hard to shop for. You have to find some little unique perfect item.
inkvoices: avengers:past behind you hug (C/N)[personal profile] inkvoices on January 5th, 2013 01:38 am (UTC)
I have no headcanon on this and I'm a busy little bee tonight, but I've been enjoying dipping in and out of everyone's chatter <3

I wonder though...have we had any thoughts on non-physical gifting? I mean, maybe just in the early days, when they travel light and own practically nothing, live out of a duffel bag. Or because they're not possessive, or too used to losing posessions, or Natasha is used to possessions and clothes and stuff indicated her role and not her, props to get her into it, or... Just, what if they don't give each other things? What if the gifts they exchange are non-material?

Like truths. On their worst days, on days when everything is upside down, when no one with give them a straight answer, they give each other the truth. ('I've been compromised." and "You know I do.")

Or other wordy things. Like maybe Clint always jokes around on comms and stuff, but Natasha never does, never starts it, never goes with it. Work is serious business for her. But sometimes, very very rarely, she'll gift to him being able to chatter, initiate it, like "just like Budapest all over again" meaning I'll talk to you, you can joke or whatever.

Or physical contact. Clint's leg on Natasha's chair in the shwarma scene, a gift from him to her, because she needs it, she needs the physical reminder that he's there and alive and okay, she needs human touch, comfort, and she's allowed that, and it's all the bigger a gift if Clint doesn't want to touch anyone right now or have anything to do with anyone right now after what's been going on, after whatever he's been through.

Maybe things like Natasha learning sign language for Clint, Clint learning Russian for Natsaha, one of them learning to cook a meal for the other. Just things that aren't material, that you can't pick up and say 'Clint got me that'. Subtle.

(And, just saying, Tony Stark, who hands people food as a sign of approval, who won't be handed things by people, who has all that money and splurges it on people, who has issues when it comes to gifting...Tony would either really not get this or be frustrated by it. Steve, coming from a time when people didn't have much, I think he'd get giving things that aren't things.)
http://lar_laughs.livejournal.com/: Marvel - Clint/Natasha apart[identity profile] lar_laughs.livejournal.com on January 5th, 2013 03:02 am (UTC)
*dies a bunch of tiny little deaths*
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