03 May 2013 @ 07:53 pm
ATTF: Clint, Natasha and AUs  
Hello! I am this week’s ATTF host (again)! And today’s topic is the much loved Alternate Universe, or AU.

BUT more specifically than just AUs, this is about Clint and Natasha, and how you make Clint and Natasha Clint and Natasha when you’ve taken away a great deal of what makes the canonically Clint and Natasha.

SO what do you see as being fundamentally Clint and Natasha? The part of their personality and/or character that identifies them as themselves, whether they are circus performers or ex-cons or teachers or regular high school students or whatever.

For Clint I think it is (among other things) being loyal, stubborn and slightly self-sabotaging. For Natasha I think it is (again, among other things) being a fighter, in control of her emotions and quite wary. But that's just what I think, and I don't write very often so what do I know? :P

So, discuss! Rec! Argue! (Politely!) Have fun!

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My absolute favourite Clint/Natasha AU: Two for the Show (and its sequel Upon this Winter's Night) by mousie tongue [ff.net]
[ Clint&Natasha | R | 31,000 words | high school AU | warnings: physical and verbal bullying, sexualized assault, violence, homophobia and homophobic language, swearing, child abuse, implied non-con ]
After her uncle is taken, young Natasha Romanov ends up in state's custody at a group home. She can tough it out alone... but somehow fellow resident Clint Barton becomes the reason she doesn't have to.
About the most in character AU I have read for this pairing. If you haven’t read this why? (And please, be aware of the warnings, but also that the issues are well handled and not the main focus of the story. Ratings and warnings for Two for the Show.)

My second favourite Clint/Natasha AU: No Light in this Valley by [livejournal.com profile] trysts
[ Clint/Natasha | PG-13 | 7600 words | wild west (?) AU | warnings: violence and swearing ]
30 miles to water, 20 miles to wood, 10 miles to hell and I gone there for good
Again, fantastic characterisation, and also just a really interesting setting. Clint especially is brilliant.

And two other favourites: Soiree by [livejournal.com profile] ruby_caspar
[ Clint/Natasha | PG-13 | 8600 words | Georgette Heyer Regency AU | warnings: none ]
The Dowager Duchess known as the Black Widow is the talk of the ton - rich and mysterious, the only way to meet this elusive lady is through the equally mysterious Mr Barton…
OH MY GIDDY AUNT I love this. In a way, this is still a spy story just set in Regency England, but it’s so so fantastic I’m reccing it here anyway. :P

Set The Fire To The Third Bar by [livejournal.com profile] themonkeytwin
[ Clint/Natasha | PG | 4500 words | warnings: none ]
It was a strange thing, to know you were living a life that wasn't quite your own.
Clint never runs away to the join the circus and becomes a firefighter with a feeling that he’s missing something. As a concept, it's stunning. And again, I feel it is very in character. LOVE.
 
 
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franztastisch: regina[personal profile] franztastisch on May 4th, 2013 10:27 am (UTC)
I agree with Anuna, I don't think Natasha has to have been used by people to be a Natasha we'd recognise. But I do think she'd have to have had a pretty shitty childhood in someway (and that can encompass everything from neglect to forced marriages to physical abuse).

I agree with everything else though, expecially Clint having a brother who abandons him (because my Clint has a BUTTLOAD of abandonment issues.)
inkvoices: avengers:assassins couple of[personal profile] inkvoices on May 5th, 2013 02:36 pm (UTC)
What you say. I think there has to be a reasons for how people are who they are, that part of us is nature but part is nurture, but that those reasons don't have to be the same. ie. Natasha doesn't always have to come from the Red Room, or be a weapon, or even Russian. But yes, it often translates into some kind of shitty childhood for these two, doesn't it?
franztastisch: regina[personal profile] franztastisch on May 5th, 2013 03:27 pm (UTC)
That is one of my peeves about superhero comics; everyone's childhoods were shit. Like you can't grow up to do good things if you weren't abandoned age 5 or something, which is ridiculous. But whatever.
inkvoices: avengers:natasha romanoff is black widow[personal profile] inkvoices on May 5th, 2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
...are there any superheros in comics who had nice, or at least decent, childhoods???

I read a fic (Tony/Steve I think, can't remember the name, meh) where Tony said that there were two things people needed to be/have experienced to become a superhero, and I can't remember exactly, but it was basically 1) the bad side of life and 2) was something like understand that bad things are happening to people all the time and have the urge and means to do something about it.


franztastisch: change my world[personal profile] franztastisch on May 5th, 2013 03:37 pm (UTC)
If there are, I don't know of them. I mean, as far as I can tell, Thor has had the best childhood. And his brother turned into a lunatic, so it can't have been stellar. But no, you can have had a good childhood and still be a hero.

This is what I like so much about the Image comic Saga (along with EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT). It's about the parents. And they are good parents.
inkvoices: avengers:clint comic[personal profile] inkvoices on May 5th, 2013 03:42 pm (UTC)
I guess. But then I'm guessing there was also the part where his dad went off to war, and where he was being raised for a role, with specific obligations. And how old is Thor when the whole Loki and trip to Earth happens? (I don't know, I like Thor in groups as a character, but his stand alone stuff doesn't hugely interest me. I'm looking forward to Thor 2 for Team Science.)

...I am going to have to try this comic :)
franztastisch: change my world[personal profile] franztastisch on May 5th, 2013 03:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah but even that seems to indicate him having a better childhood, on the whole, than any of the other characters.

OH MY GOD YOU MUST. It is utterly fantastic. Better even, I think, than Hawkeye. (OK no. Different. Very very different AND WITH ART TO DIE FOR)
inkvoices: avengers:clint comic[personal profile] inkvoices on May 6th, 2013 01:43 pm (UTC)
True.

Hehe, I WILL TRY THIS THEN :D