10 May 2013 @ 04:39 pm
ATTF: Clint and Nat and run-ins with law enforcement  
Hi, everyone, I’m your host for this week’s ATTF. :)

This week, I’d love to talk about Clint and Natasha’s run-ins with law enforcement agencies. After all, SHIELD isn’t the only agency out there, and as powerful as they are, there are probably times when working with other agencies is a necessary evil (CIA, FBI, ATF, INTERPOL, etc).

Of course, let’s not forget that Clint and Nat may have had run-ins with government agencies *before* joining SHIELD. They might very well have been on any number of watch lists and “Most Wanted” lists, and they might have run afoul of local law enforcement in various countries. I assume that SHIELD probably expunged their records, but there may still be people out there who would recognize the names of “Hawkeye,” and “The Black Widow,” and wouldn’t think of them as the good guys. (There may also be those who simply don’t approve of assassins, government sanctioned or not.)

And that only covers canon compliant possibilities. :) Imagine all of the crossover potential with crime shows (a number of which are, coincidentally, set in New York). And there are so many great AU possibilities as well.

So, I’m throwing the door wide open this week. :) Feel free to chat about all things Clint, Nat, and law-enforcement related - discuss, write fics, rec them, or post prompts.

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To start things off, a question and a prompt:

Question: How do you think Clint and Nat would be viewed by other agencies? They have SHIELD’s respect, but if someone from another agency knew even just the barest outline of their histories, would they be suspicious? Wary? Angry that they’re working on the government’s dime, instead of locked up somewhere?

Prompt: “This is a warrant for your arrest.”
 
 
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inkvoices: avengers:assassins couple of[personal profile] inkvoices on May 11th, 2013 09:46 pm (UTC)
I wonder... It's Steve in Avengers who goes to talk to the NYPD and get them helping. Probably because he's the person ordering people around at that point, and as a good strategist/leader would be thinking of using all available personel and resources of which the NYPD are right there. But. Do Natasha and Clint, having arrived on the scene with Steve at this point, ignore the police as useless, ignore them as trouble, avoid them because nothing good comes of law enforcement...? I can just see them on a private comm channel, Natasha saying something to Clint like 'don't shoot the guys in uniform this time; Steve's taken them under his wing.' And Clint being all, 'I suppose him taking a recently brainwashed assassin on his team should have told me he wasn't fussy.'

But yes, interesting discussion topic! :)
[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on May 11th, 2013 11:31 pm (UTC)
Haha! But I don't get that feeling...I think they decided to divide and conquer ("There are civillians trapped up here" "They are fish and barrel down there" "Go, we got this")...but you brought up a GREAT point of the captain being the leader at that point. My instict is that Clint and Natasha would utilize the police to save civilians (and would try to the save the police bc that's how they roll), but they were all trying to be as efficient as possible in that situation. But you made me think of something...if Clint is an ex-soldier (I think that isn't known yet, but hinted at?), how would that affect how he sees other forms of law enforcement and military? Does he like Captain America because he gave him a chance? Because he was a war hero? Because he's on their side? Because Coulson does? I think its interesting how everyone defers to Steve but I'm a bit surprised that Clint and Tony did so easily.
ext_36286: movie // avengers // still believe[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com on May 12th, 2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
I think its interesting how everyone defers to Steve but I'm a bit surprised that Clint and Tony did so easily.

I think in Clint's case he was mostly following Natasha's lead in deferring to Steve (there wasn't really a lot of time to sit around thinking about it) although of course as a SHIELD agent he would likely have known ABOUT him beforehand and probably formed his own opinions.

In terms of Steve as Leader (and I know this is OT but it's a subject I find really interesting), I think in the heat of the moment, with NYC blowing up all around them, it made the most sense. As far as we know, Steve's the only one who's led others in battle/studied military tactics. Tony is... Tony. We saw Thor fight alongside other Asgardians, but he kind of let them do their own thing while he played One Man Wrecking Crew. Hulk Smashes. Nat's a spy and Clint's a sniper.

(Tony *does* give Steve the go-ahead to be the tactician, as well, after Loki sends the second wave of flying armadillo-whales through the portal.)