01 August 2014 @ 10:40 pm
ATTF: comics vs. movies  
Hello! I'm your guest host for tonight's ATTF, and I'll dig right in: comics vs. movies. Did you read the comics (by which I mainly refer to the 616 universe)? Do you have certain expectations, certain things you want the movies to revisit? Do you mix and match the comic canon and movie canon, or do you keep them separate?

To get things started, my two cents are that the characters in the movies and the characters in the comics are at the same time the same and also very different people. A friend of mine once said that the movie characters have a different 'energy' than the comics ones, and I think that's a good description for my take on it as well. Take Natasha: on the one hand you have the woman from the comics who has been around for decades, spy, assassin, criminal with a long and storied history. On the other, you have the movie version, who -- at least based on canon so far -- is far younger, and who, and that's my impression, ymmv, is more empathetic than the comics one. And then Clint: there's the SHIELD agent and assassin from the movies, and then there's the human disaster from the comics who just recently swore he never killed anyone (however true that can be).

The one thing they have in common though, so far -- and will hopefully continue to -- is that they care for each other deeply and that their lives are entangled. They're exes in the comics -- though there's so much more to their shared history. Clint calls Natasha his best friend and his work wife, and one of my favorite comics panels has Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman, at the time Clint's fresh ex-girlfriend) realizing that something must have happened to him by seeing Natasha lose her composure, and she knows that Clint's the only one whose loss would prompt such a reaction from her. Funny enough, I don't ship them in the comics -- I actually ship Clint like fedex with someone else -- while the movie versions are one of my OTPs.

So, now, enough about me, back to the beginning: What about you? Do you keep your Clints and Natashas separate, or do you morph them together? Do you make use of comics canon for movie fic, and if so what is it? What parts of the comics would you like to come up in the movies, and which do you think don't fit? Do you have fic recs for fic that combines them well? Meta recs that either point out the differences or talk about the similarities? Any headcanons you'd like to share, about the things in their backstories that do or don't align? Just remember:

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[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com on August 1st, 2014 10:10 pm (UTC)
For shipping purposes, Clint/ Natasha in the movies, but I have to say that comics are winning me over for fan purposes, mainly because I can read stories all about Natasha where she isn't filtered through a different characters' lens.
i was born difficult for myself: Avengers BlackWidow2[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 02:37 pm (UTC)
True, it gives us her POV which is something we're probably not likely to get in the MCU anytime soon. :/
[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 08:55 pm (UTC)
And the same for Hawkeye. Plus, I would KILL for MCU!Kate.
i was born difficult for myself: Marvel Kate Wu[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 08:58 pm (UTC)
Yep, true. The Fraction run is SO consistently wonderful with character insight. *_*

I'm still not sure whether or not MCU!Kate is something I'd want or if I want to box her up and keep her far, far away from anyone who's not Fraction, Gillen or Heinberg. I'm very particular about Kate. XD
[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 09:04 pm (UTC)
And given that a lot of people in charge of the MCU can't seem to emphasize with women, I understand your concern. But if they can get GOTG right, then they can do the same for Kate, right?
i was born difficult for myself: Marvel Kate YA14[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 09:06 pm (UTC)
Heh, yeah, I guess you're right. Plus, they're doing a stellar job with Nat whenever they DO decide to give her screen time.
[identity profile] hufflepuffsneak.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 09:07 pm (UTC)
Ahh, I kinda think IM2 wasn't that great in execution, although the script (and Nat) had its moments. But yes, Avengers and Cap 2, SOOO good with Nat.
i was born difficult for myself: Avengers Black Widow[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 09:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it wasn't their brightest our, but I've grown more fond of it on rewatch. XD