01 August 2014 @ 10:40 pm
ATTF: comics vs. movies  
Hello! I'm your guest host for tonight's ATTF, and I'll dig right in: comics vs. movies. Did you read the comics (by which I mainly refer to the 616 universe)? Do you have certain expectations, certain things you want the movies to revisit? Do you mix and match the comic canon and movie canon, or do you keep them separate?

To get things started, my two cents are that the characters in the movies and the characters in the comics are at the same time the same and also very different people. A friend of mine once said that the movie characters have a different 'energy' than the comics ones, and I think that's a good description for my take on it as well. Take Natasha: on the one hand you have the woman from the comics who has been around for decades, spy, assassin, criminal with a long and storied history. On the other, you have the movie version, who -- at least based on canon so far -- is far younger, and who, and that's my impression, ymmv, is more empathetic than the comics one. And then Clint: there's the SHIELD agent and assassin from the movies, and then there's the human disaster from the comics who just recently swore he never killed anyone (however true that can be).

The one thing they have in common though, so far -- and will hopefully continue to -- is that they care for each other deeply and that their lives are entangled. They're exes in the comics -- though there's so much more to their shared history. Clint calls Natasha his best friend and his work wife, and one of my favorite comics panels has Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman, at the time Clint's fresh ex-girlfriend) realizing that something must have happened to him by seeing Natasha lose her composure, and she knows that Clint's the only one whose loss would prompt such a reaction from her. Funny enough, I don't ship them in the comics -- I actually ship Clint like fedex with someone else -- while the movie versions are one of my OTPs.

So, now, enough about me, back to the beginning: What about you? Do you keep your Clints and Natashas separate, or do you morph them together? Do you make use of comics canon for movie fic, and if so what is it? What parts of the comics would you like to come up in the movies, and which do you think don't fit? Do you have fic recs for fic that combines them well? Meta recs that either point out the differences or talk about the similarities? Any headcanons you'd like to share, about the things in their backstories that do or don't align? Just remember:

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[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 1st, 2014 11:05 pm (UTC)
I haven't read any comics (other than Archie when I was a kid) but I have watched some of the cartoons and read wikipedia and have seen panels online. I ship Clint/Natasha in all of them. Ok, golden age, I don't care too much about simply b/c it just seems SO far off of who I think they are?? Although they are hilarious and I love the romantic love aspect of them.

But yeah, LOOOOOVVVVEEE MCU Clint/Nat of course. I also ship them in the cartoons, especially Avengers Assemble. I don't mind Bobbi as an ex.
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on August 1st, 2014 11:44 pm (UTC)
Bobbi as an ex has total appeal for me (as does the idea of Clint essentially sleeping his way through SHIELD before falling for Natasha). I have high hopes for her turning up in Agents of SHIELD, so I can find a proper voice for her and sticking her into a story.
[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 1st, 2014 11:54 pm (UTC)
This is pretty much my exact headcanon for Clint as well.

I sometimes think Fury could have warned Clint not to touch her (especially if she was young when she started and since he has paternal insticts towards her) and subsequently Clint recieved the same glare he got when he brought her back to SHIELD instead of killing her lol.
[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 1st, 2014 11:56 pm (UTC)
Um...Fury having paternal insticts toward her. Not Clint. lol
i was born difficult for myself: Avengers Clint/Nat[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 02:48 pm (UTC)
Heh, I've never seen the cartoons. I can suspend disbelief for comics and even an anime or two now and then, but somehow cartoons is where I draw the line. XD

[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 05:31 pm (UTC)
OMG I know. I turned it on one day and couldn't believe how awful it was. But then left it on while I was cleaning and there are actually some funny bits in it. Like there is a scene where Hulk and Thor are fighting and Clint says, "Stop guys. Hulk is the strongest, Thor is the prettiest, what's there to fight about?" LOL Its fine for background noise ;)
i was born difficult for myself: Renner2[personal profile] geckoholic on August 2nd, 2014 08:25 pm (UTC)
Heeh, there's worse background noise, I'm sure. XD I've seen gifsets on tumblr, it does look like fun.
ext_36286: movie // avengers // your face[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 06:34 pm (UTC)
Avengers Assemble Clint and Natasha are fun. Although I think their Earth's Mightiest Heroes versions had more sparkage ;)
[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 07:07 pm (UTC)
Yes! I have only watched one episode of EMH but I noticed that too.
ext_36286[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 07:18 pm (UTC)
Bobbi noticed it too... ;)
[identity profile] happilydancing.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 08:31 pm (UTC)
She sure did!
[identity profile] alphaflyer.livejournal.com on August 2nd, 2014 09:45 pm (UTC)
EMH? For me that will forever stand for "Emergency Medical Hologram." :-)