27 June 2012 @ 10:21 pm
It's JUST a rumor, but...  
...that won't stop us from shamelessly speculating about it anyway! Check out what [livejournal.com profile] workerbee73 and I discovered earlier this evening:

Directors Anthony and Joe Russo will have their work cut out for them too, as The Playlist is reporting that other big name characters may be appearing as well.
…Black Widow and Hawkeye may also be involved in Captain America 2 and there will be some romance between them. The pair of agents shared plenty of screen time with Captain America in The Avengers, and having them fight together again works within the context of a modern-set Captain America story… Nick Fury may get some of his origin story fleshed out as well, which would theoretically lend itself to flashbacks to World War II.
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And there's also this, which goes on to further spec about the rumors discussed in the Playlist podcast (Avengers discussion starts around the 30-minute mark).

So...thoughts?! What do you want to see from Cap 2? Avengers 2? Are you holding out hope for a Black Widow and/or Hawkeye and/or SHIELD movie? Discuss!

And to get us off to a good start--nay, the BEST start:

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JUST SAYIN': I'D BE OKAY WITH MORE OF THIS. IN ANY MOVIE. OR ALL THE MOVIES. I'M EASY LIKE THAT.
 
 
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[identity profile] dalaire.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:26 am (UTC)
A bit late for me to discuss just yet, but had to say: Many instances of squee, here! Indeed, I can do a lot more of the above, too.

Thanks for this!

*happy*

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[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:39 am (UTC)
I hear ya, probably going to bed soon myself. But yeah, we just had to get this out there to the people! :DDDD
[identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:34 am (UTC)
I'm absolutely terrified for an Avengers 2. I'M SO SCARED JOSS WILL KILL CLINT. NOT MY BAAAAABY NOOOOO.
[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:52 am (UTC)
I am too, but my 'ship in Dollhouse (Victor/Sierra) ended pretty well, so I'm hopeful that they're important enough that he can't kill them off but unimportant enough that he won't feel the need to spend a lot of time developing alternate ships to set up triangles or whatever--also known as screwing them up.
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[identity profile] kuhori-rei.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:37 am (UTC)
CANON ON-SCREEN ROMANCE BETWEEN MY TWO FAVORITE ASSASSIN-SPY-SUPERHEROES?

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[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:06 am (UTC)
Ha ha ha I KNOW!!!! It would be amaaaaaaazing. I should find that clip too where the reporter asks if there'll be C/N romance in the future (like a love-hate, he clarifies, which okay, whatever) and they say they could see it, that there's a lot of love there (and tons of hate, they joke).
[identity profile] ericadawn16.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:41 am (UTC)
So, does that mean that Nick Fury, like his cartoon counterpart, is basically immortal?

I still want a SHIELD film directed by Clark Gregg but I realize this will have to wait until at least 2013...

I'm kind of torn because I love Clint and Tasha but then, they've already established that Bucky is merely MIA which means the possibility of Winter Soldier and I do love Winter Soldier but then...

Does that mean they're setting Clint and Tasha up for a fall by introducing Winter Soldier and Mockingbird in future films?

Of course, I should probably relax and just be grateful that they're considering canon Clint/Tasha for the big screen.
[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:46 am (UTC)
Does that mean they're setting Clint and Tasha up for a fall by introducing Winter Soldier and Mockingbird in future films?

I worry a bout this too, ngl. BUT. I don't think it's going to happen in the next round of films. At the most we might get a Bucky re-intro, so I'm just praying that the love triangle/quadrangle days are still a far ways off.

Of course, I should probably relax and just be grateful that they're considering canon Clint/Tasha for the big screen.

This. Definitely this.
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[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:51 am (UTC)
First off, I didn't have nuthin' to do with finding this amazing info. That was all you, our very own Crackerjack Ace Cub Scout Reporter. Well done! :D

I'm super excited by canon possibilities, and, as we discussed earlier, I'm almost more okay right now with a (somewhat) less is more approach and maybe not giving them their own film right away-- ESPECIALLY if there is implied (or shamelessly blatant) smoochies in the other films. Part of me wants all of the things, but another part isn't too eager to have TOO much canon, if that makes any sense.


Also? That pic. It gives me all the feelings. ALL OF THEM.
[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:01 am (UTC)
Why thank you! But you did recommend the illustration and the title, so this was still a co-written piece in my mind.

I think I'm absolutely okay with less is more. I feel like there's less chance they'll get screwed up that way, tbh, and idk, so far it's been a blast to get to fill in a lot of the blanks with fanon. :)

That picture, I KNOOOOOOOWWWWW.
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[identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:55 am (UTC)
I do not care in which form I receive my Clintasha, I just want more of it. I want more Marvel Cinematic Universe in general, but obviously I have my favorites. *rolls around on the ground* DON'T CARE JUST WANT.

I'm such a junkie. And finally in a fandom where I can actually GET MORE. What is this!?

ETA: It's interesting being able to pick and choose and create a fan origin story from what we know from Avengers and what we can dig up from the comics, but I think it will be kind of nice to have a canon version of events in this specific Marvel universe.

Well, if it doesn't suck that is.

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[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:03 am (UTC)
Totally with ya, and I actually think it's neat that they might just make smaller appearances in a few movies rather than have a big role in a movie every few years. But we'll see what ends up happening. It's still very very early in the Cap2 sequel (they're still actually writing it), so who knows, maybe there won't even be room for C/N--from the podcast it sounds like this movie could be PACKED with subplots and new characters.
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[identity profile] madjm.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Squeeeeeeee!

Yeah, that's pretty much all I got.
[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:07 am (UTC)
That is quite all right! It sounds like mostly spec at this point, but ngl, I think it's pretty cool that it's being discussed by the fanboys.
[identity profile] aurora-0811.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:00 am (UTC)
Marvel would be crazy not to cash in on all the Clint/Natasha love. They're all over social media so there's no doubt they have seen the huge C/N fandom that the movie spawned. I'm trying to play it cool because 2014 is a long way off and who knows what will happen until they start filming but inside I'm squeeing and starting the Master Assassin Prayer Circle of hope. LETS DO IT MARVEL BECAUSE YOU KNOW:

Image (http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc426/planetfangirl/miscellaneous/?action=view&current=tumblr_lyrlqrxg7d1qkwh2i.gif)

There was also this little gem from Renner back in April over on http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=58851 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=58851)

Widow and Hawkeye's relationship seemed more based on friendship and respect than intimacy in The Avengers, but could we see that progress in the future? Renner thinks so, and suggests things might get a bit rough if they ever did decide to have a romp between the sheets..

TF: What about a love story between Black Widow and Hawkeye?

Renner: “I think there are possibilities all through the Marvel Universe, isn’t there? Sure. I wouldn’t discount that. I think it’s probably…I think they’d just as much get after each other in bed as they would slice each other’s throats while they’re at it. The Widow’s thighs, man, they’re dangerous! You’ve got to be careful of those things. Like a preying mantis!”


Basically...I approve of everything and would like anything that gives us more Black Widow/Hawkeye screentime.

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[identity profile] rayruz.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:03 am (UTC)
Jeremy Renner, I love your face and the way your brain works. That is all.
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[identity profile] brickhousewench.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:03 am (UTC)
Dude! Duuuuuuuude! Any chance for more BlackHawk sooner rather than later can ONLY be a good thing, yes?

*GLEE*
[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:15 am (UTC)
YES. I'll take it, I'll take it! I thought Cap, Widow, and Hawkeye were pretty awesome together anyway. One of my fave pictures from the movie is the three of them walking onto the jet together.
ext_36286[identity profile] allisnow.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:23 am (UTC)
I am okay with more Clint/Natasha in pretty much any and all forms. As someone said above I'm hoping from a writing perspective (especially if Joss is involved) they're too important to kill off (I wrote off the X-Men cinematic universe after what they did to poor Scott) but not important enough to be involved in triangles and quadrangles and whatnot. In that respect maybe smaller roles in other movies are better than one big SHIELD movie... I dunno. I still think a Fury/SHIELD movie would be awesomesauce as well.

In the meantime, here's hoping that the guy who plays Bucky stays busy with other projects ;) Ship issues aside, I find the character (at least the movie and cartoon versions -- maybe he's better in the comics) quite irritating.
[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:12 pm (UTC)
Yes, Bucky. Stay busy. Very busy. ;)
[identity profile] emmymik.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:25 am (UTC)
I was just thinking about this possibility today. Actually, my thought process was more like:

"I can't wait for Captain America 2.

Wait. It should be set in modern times.

Wait. Cap works or does something with S.H.I.E.L.D. in modern times.

Wait. Clint and Natasha work for S.H.I.E.L.D. in modern times.

omg. I BETTER GET SOME MOTHERFUCKING BLACKHAWK UP IN THIS THING."
[identity profile] thrace-adama.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:31 am (UTC)
Yep yep yep, I think it was Screen Rant that was saying today that they expect Cap2 and the SHIELD movie people have been talking about may end up being one and the same. I loved Widow and Hawkeye as part of the group so I'm cool with seeing that continued.
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[identity profile] book-junkie007.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 04:39 am (UTC)
I will take my Clint/Natasha wherever I can get it. I can't speculate, as I haven't seen anything other than Iron Man 1 & 2 (where do they fit in canon anyway?) and the Avengers. I would love to have a Black Widow origin movie, either separate or combined with Hawkeye. I think it would be a nice change of pace from all the flashy superhero stuff. For sure I. Want. MOAR! :)
[identity profile] mslauren2930.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
the way I see it, if you have a Black Widow origin story, you have to include Clint, Fury and SHIELD, which also happily means Coulson too! in other words, to me it seems that it has to be a SHIELD origin story, since all of their fates are tied together. I just worry that Marvel won't be able to schedule this in within the next few years, which would mean they'd have to rely more on other actors to play Clint, Natasha, etc. in their earlier years. and that thought bums me out considerably.

I also think Joss should write it because Joss is GOD.

For sure I. Want. MOAR! :) - ME TOO!
[identity profile] sugar-fey.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 04:56 am (UTC)
OMG!! I'm so happy with this!

But I'm also a bit terrified after years of being a Joss fan. If they hook up on screen and Joss is involved Ill keep thinking "one of them's going to die!"

I ship Wash/Zoe and Willow/Tara. *dramatic voice* I've been burned before.
[identity profile] dalaire.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 09:53 am (UTC)
This. Everything above. And this.
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[identity profile] yooperchild.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 06:14 am (UTC)
I don't have a lot of real life friends who are involved in fandom type stuff at all. Yet every, single one I've talked to thought they already had something going on in the movie. I don't think one person who's discussed the movie with me thought it was just a work relationship, so that would be awesome if they addressed it!

[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
That's awesome. I think that seems to be the general consensus too. I've heard a few people say "well, thank God there wasn't any romance" or that Clint and Natasha were just friends etc., and I think that's a prefectly valid way to read the film, but in my mind there is C/N subtext plastered all over the place. Heck, you could practically rename it "The Avengers: Or that Movie Where Someone Tries to Mess With Clint Barton and Natasha Romanoff Moves Heaven and Earth to Get Her Man Back."

Or something. ;)
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[identity profile] lady-sesstra.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 07:00 am (UTC)
YES PLEASE!

Please let this happen. Omg.

*presents offerings to the fandom gods*

This is awesome news and I love you for making my day!
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ext_2027[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 10:30 am (UTC)
Oh man, if that's true, that'd be really good news! That's the next best thing to Hawk/Widow/Fury/SHIELD getting their own movie, and it's more realistic to hope for. Crossing my fingers!
[identity profile] amber-protocol.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 11:12 am (UTC)
I agree, I don't know how realistic it is to think that we'd actually get a SHIELD or Black Widow and/or Hawkeye movie, I think them being present in other films is much more likely. And Captain America is the best one to put them into since he's now out of his own time and it will be good to have some friendly faces with him; Thor's out of the question with it being set on Asgard, and Iron Man can definitely carry his own movie.

So yay for them being in Captain America if this is true, I liked seeing Natasha and Steve working together in TA, and having Clint interact non-mind controlled with Steve will also be interesting to see. As well as just more Natasha and Clint in general.
(Anonymous) on June 28th, 2012 11:55 am (UTC)
Thanks for the news!
I'm conflicted about this, because I want a Black Widow movie but I also want her origins to be shrouded in mystery. Can they make a S.H.I.E.L.D/ Black Widow movie AND a Cap movie? On the other hand having the Black Widow and Hawkeye show up as awesome spy!bros for cameos in each of the other movies would be fun (because you know they're getting up to super-secret spy stuff off-screen that is just too secret for us to know about).

Also, if they keep churning out movies with American white dudes as leads I might have to keep my money and just rent the DVDs. Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, She-Hulk! Let's see some awesome ladies with their own damn movies.
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[identity profile] sarea-okelani.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
This would be a perfect way to get more Clint and Natasha, imo. I've been torn about the possibility of them getting their own individual origin movies because while I'd love to see more of them, it would also necessitate a whole bunch of footage of them not being with each other, and getting a bunch of other characters involved that I don't care about so that they can pretend it's a 'real' movie and not just a romance between Black Widow and Hawkeye. >.> I don't want them to throw in a bunch of messy things -- Winter Soldier, Mockingbird, and other comic book canon crap -- that I pretty much want to pretend doesn't exist.

However, as a side story in other movies, it's perfect because then all their scenes together really COUNT (like in Avengers), and there won't be room to throw in stupid love triangles and other undesirable elements. [livejournal.com profile] allisnow's totally right (I hope) that Clint and Natasha are important enough to not kill off, but not important enough to bother with a lot of other crap. In a way, killing one of them off would be preferable (imho) to seeing them split up to pair off with Bucky and Bobbi. I mean, if they die, fandom will just bring them back a la Phil Coulson. No sweat.
[identity profile] workerbee73.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
THIS.
[identity profile] rosemerry.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
Whoo hoo!!! Bring on the romance!!
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[identity profile] anuna-81.livejournal.com on June 28th, 2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
Just give me romance in any of those movies (or all of them!) and don't kill them off and I'll be happy. (also, please don't pair them with other people. Good? Good.)
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