Saw it a few days ago, I thought it was good, though not as great as Avengers (matter of personal taste, I'd say). I enjoyed a lot of moments, though I was a bit disappointed that Nat didn't get that much to do, at least in comparison to her role in Cap 2.

i think Nat not getting too much to do was a function of too many characters, too little time. I mean, Clint didn't even show up until halfway through the movie! And even Cap didn't really get to star in his own movie. I've seen it referred to as Ironman 4, and that's not all that wrong...

I think nothing will ever beat Avengers. Like Star Wars Episode 4, it basks in the glamour of being the first of its kind (yeah, yeah, I know there was a Hulk and a Thor and a Cap and 2 Ironmans before. I mean the first TEAM movie). It holds a special place in my heart.

Ironically, I think the movie kind of suffered from having to be a Captain America movie. I feel like they might have been able to balance the characters more effectively had CW been an Avengers movie. But either way, Tony would have chewed up a good amount of screen time because Marvel is silly.

Yeah, I've been waiting for another Marvel film to give me the same sense of awe and joy that Avengers did, and I've come to accept that this simply won't happen, not because no other film is as good, but because Avengers was The First for me, and I went in with no expectations or anxieties because I didn't know or care about the MCU at that point. Now every MCU film I see has the weight of my expectations and anxieties surrounding the treatment of certain characters, which, to be fair, is not the film's fault.

That whole second paragraph. YES.

I think the problem here is that we're expecting a film to equally focus on everyone, which, a) the first Avengers didn't actually, it focused on Tony and Steve and Bruce and Natasha, and Loki, to an extent. CW focused on Steve and Bucky and Tony with strong secondary Natasha and T'Challa and Wanda, and I'm actually impressed that it managed to include all those storylines as competently as it did- the Russo's movies in this franchise have been a lot more even-handed and streamlined than Whedon's more explosive and character-focused, IMO.

b) This was /meant/ to be a partisan movie, focused on Cap and characters relevant to his theme and focus, which, in this case, was the freedom/accountability dichotomy, with Steve cast as the purist and Tony (& Natasha) as the compromisers. Wanda's and Bucky's storylines were examples.

Personally, I really liked that it had so many characters, even with uneven screentime (personally I'm like where the fuck was Hope Van Dyne), because that's more true to life than would be a story where everyone had an equal hand in driving along the plot. You ever been in a big friend group where all the drama is always focused on two or three people? Yeah. Tony and Steve are those guys.